LeopoldBloom · M
Most people have no idea how diverse the Middle East is.
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Moon3624 · 22-25, F
@LeopoldBloom
Most people in Djibouti and Somalia don’t even speak Arabic lmao
Anyways
Its a league for politics ironically created by Egypt
Anyways my post is about Arabs as an ethnic group .
There is Organisation internationale de la Francophonie (OIF)
It’s political cooperation between countries that speak French
Includes France, Canada (Quebec), many African states (Senegal, Ivory Coast, DR Congo, etc.), Lebanon, etc
Will you say that French people are ethnically same as people from Lebanon or Senegal?
Nope.
That’s my whole point.
And yes they are arabized 🥱
Most people in Djibouti and Somalia don’t even speak Arabic lmao
Anyways
Its a league for politics ironically created by Egypt
Anyways my post is about Arabs as an ethnic group .
There is Organisation internationale de la Francophonie (OIF)
It’s political cooperation between countries that speak French
Includes France, Canada (Quebec), many African states (Senegal, Ivory Coast, DR Congo, etc.), Lebanon, etc
Will you say that French people are ethnically same as people from Lebanon or Senegal?
Nope.
That’s my whole point.
And yes they are arabized 🥱
LeopoldBloom · M
@Moon3624 The difference is that they refer to themselves as French speaking (which they are), and not French. So to be more accurate, the Arab League should be renamed to "The Arabic Speaking (mostly) League."
Moon3624 · 22-25, F
@LeopoldBloom
The whole point of this post is explaining the hijacking and theft of the Arab ethnic group
Making your entire comment illogical and irrelevant
I made the point that there is a league for all French speaking communities and world however that doesn’t make them French in the ethnic sense.
Just because there is an Arab league doesn’t mean those lands and peoples are Arabs in the ethnic sense
No matter how much you and them whine
, You don’t get to hijack it.
You seem eager to disagree with me on everything , well I sent a 9 min voice message in here explaining the hijacking how about you refute a single point mentioned in it 🤔
The whole point of this post is explaining the hijacking and theft of the Arab ethnic group
Making your entire comment illogical and irrelevant
I made the point that there is a league for all French speaking communities and world however that doesn’t make them French in the ethnic sense.
Just because there is an Arab league doesn’t mean those lands and peoples are Arabs in the ethnic sense
No matter how much you and them whine
, You don’t get to hijack it.
You seem eager to disagree with me on everything , well I sent a 9 min voice message in here explaining the hijacking how about you refute a single point mentioned in it 🤔
ChipmunkErnie · 70-79, M
All depends on your definitions -- the most common definition I've run across for "Arab" is a person who speaks Arabic, like an "Hispanic" is generally a person from the Americas who speaks Spanish.
Identify yourself however you like, I guess. Genetic migration and diversity means we're all related somehow.
Identify yourself however you like, I guess. Genetic migration and diversity means we're all related somehow.
Moon3624 · 22-25, F
@ChipmunkErnie
Speaking Arabic doesn’t equal being Arab
I meant specifically that Arabs and arabized are different things
If a Japanese tomorrow speaks French doesn’t make them French it makes them a French speaking Japanese
And that doesn’t make sushi French .
Why is an Arabic speaking person an Arab
But a French speaking Lebanese isn’t ethnically French?
I think my post was very clear what was difficult to understand?
Speaking Arabic doesn’t equal being Arab
I meant specifically that Arabs and arabized are different things
If a Japanese tomorrow speaks French doesn’t make them French it makes them a French speaking Japanese
And that doesn’t make sushi French .
Why is an Arabic speaking person an Arab
But a French speaking Lebanese isn’t ethnically French?
I think my post was very clear what was difficult to understand?
ChipmunkErnie · 70-79, M
@Moon3624 If you don't like the definitions tell the dictionaries, not me. Your post is not difficult to understand, you're trying to distance yourself from certain parts/peoples what most people consider "the Arab World" and claiming some kind of genetic/cultural purity.
Moon3624 · 22-25, F
@ChipmunkErnie
I am not claiming anything it is the literal truth 🥱
And I am not distancing myself from them or claim superiority
I simply don’t want my identity to be stolen and misrepresented (negatively or positively or neutrally )
I think it’s pretty simple .
If you want to learn about Arabs go to the Arabian peninsula
That is their homeland and where their culture is best represented
You don’t go to a non Arab land that only speaks Arabic because of brief colonialism like Egypt to learn about Arab ethnic group
When you want to learn about Spaniards you go to Spain not Mexico
When you want to learn about French you go to France you don’t go to Djibouti or Lebanon simply because they speak French .
“ and claiming some kind of genetic/cultural purity.”
It’s a fact though 😂
I am not claiming anything it is the literal truth 🥱
And I am not distancing myself from them or claim superiority
I simply don’t want my identity to be stolen and misrepresented (negatively or positively or neutrally )
I think it’s pretty simple .
If you want to learn about Arabs go to the Arabian peninsula
That is their homeland and where their culture is best represented
You don’t go to a non Arab land that only speaks Arabic because of brief colonialism like Egypt to learn about Arab ethnic group
When you want to learn about Spaniards you go to Spain not Mexico
When you want to learn about French you go to France you don’t go to Djibouti or Lebanon simply because they speak French .
“ and claiming some kind of genetic/cultural purity.”
It’s a fact though 😂
basilfawlty89 · 36-40, M
I get what you're saying, and fully agree, however it's not so much cultural appropriation as much as colonialism.
Trust me, Amazighen aren't too happy at being marginalized.
Trust me, Amazighen aren't too happy at being marginalized.
BohoBabe · M
basilfawlty89 · 36-40, M
@BohoBabe are they? Have you asked them. Because I have two Amazighen friends, one Kabylie and one Riffian and they're definitely not.
BohoBabe · M
@basilfawlty89 You got me, I was fronting.
BohoBabe · M
The difference is that an Arab is someone who speaks Arabic. A Spaniard isn't someone who speaks Spanish, that's why Mexicans aren't Spaniards.
LeopoldBloom · M
@Moon3624 Most outsiders couldn't explain the difference between Arab and Arabized. I was just listening to the Behind the Bastards podcast about Alexandre Villaplane, and the host Robert Evans was calling Algerians "Arabs." He of all people should know better since he's been all over the Middle East. Algerians can be Berbers, Kabyles, Tuaregs, and others who are not only not Arabs, they may not even speak Arabic as their first language.
People use "Arab world" when they really should say MENA. It never occurred to me that Arabs such as yourself would be annoyed by this. So thanks for bringing this to our attention. I will make an effort to not use "Arab" to refer to anyone who isn't from the Arabian peninsula (and is, of course, Arab).
People use "Arab world" when they really should say MENA. It never occurred to me that Arabs such as yourself would be annoyed by this. So thanks for bringing this to our attention. I will make an effort to not use "Arab" to refer to anyone who isn't from the Arabian peninsula (and is, of course, Arab).
Moon3624 · 22-25, F
@LeopoldBloom I mentioned you to a voice message under this post explaining how the Arab term expanded
Listen to it if ur interested
Listen to it if ur interested
LeopoldBloom · M
@Moon3624 I'm aware of how it expanded. However, that expansion seems to be acceptable to members of the Arab League, which includes people like Somalis who aren't even Arabized.
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