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DogMan · 61-69, M
Any guesses about who the shooter was? We know the civilian that returned fire was a right wing America
loving guy, and NOT a Democrat.

The shooter on the other hand stopped to shoot up a hated Tesla, much like the lefty Trump/Musk haters
a year ago, that shot, firebombed, and vandalized Teslas around the country.
trollslayer · 51-55, M
@DogMan i think that is jumping to conclusions, and really politics has no place here. I know plenty of democrats that are “good guys with guns”.
DogMan · 61-69, M
@trollslayer well, this good guy has video with his truck which has huge American flags attached to it.

That tells me it is most likely a righty. And the shooter shot up a Tesla before shooting the people.

You remember who was vandalizing Tesla's last year? I could be wrong but common sense tells me
I'm right on the money.
trollslayer · 51-55, M
@DogMan i meant politics don’t seem to have influenced the shooter nor the “good guy with the gun”.

DogMan · 61-69, M
Thank God for good guys with guns.
DogMan · 61-69, M
@Waveney America will never NOT have guns. The most we could ever do is take away guns from non-criminals, and THAT would be a catastrophe.
Waveney · M
@DogMan I know America will never not have guns.

And that is your catastrophe; that is why you will constantly live in fear of your neighbour; that is why you will never be safe.

God help America.

I will say no more on the subject.
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DogMan · 61-69, M

"Assassination Generation"
book by Lt. Col. Dave Grossman that explores the link between violent video games and mass shootings among youth.
"Assassination Generation" examines how violent video games may contribute to a new era of mass homicide by influencing young people’s behavior and mindset. The book presents case studies of tragic events, including the 1997 Paducah, Kentucky school shooting, the 1999 Columbine massacre in Littleton, Colorado, the 2011 Utoya, Norway attack, and the 2012 Newtown, Connecticut shooting, highlighting a common factor: the perpetrators’ engagement with video games that simulate killing

.
Lt. Col. Dave Grossman, a retired U.S. Army officer and former West Point psychology professor, draws on decades of experience studying human aggression, violent crime, and the psychology of killing. He combines crime statistics, social research, and neuroscience studies of the teenage brain to argue that exposure to violent video games can desensitize youth to violence, warp moral reasoning, and potentially lead to deadly outcomes
Waveney · M
People died. You will never convince those of us in the civilised world that having a country awash with guns makes you "safe".
DogMan · 61-69, M
@Waveney The funny thing about crime and murders in the U.S. is that the vast majority happens
in cities that have the strictest gun laws, and those same cities have been run by Democrats for
literally decades.
Waveney · M
@DogMan The funny thing about crime and murder in the US is that cities tend to have the most people living in them, so there is more likely to be more crime when there are a lot of people. It is true that historically most cities vote Democrat because their citizens are educated.

But the other funny thing about crime and murder in the US is that it has FAR more deaths by gun violence per year than the rest of the world put together. By far.

If there were no guns in America, there would be no gun violence.

Funny that.
Waveney · M
@DogMan
That sounds like a lot of stabbing to me.

Well you're wrong, because knife crime is an umbrella term including threatening, robbing, and indeed stabbings and homicides, which is normally about 1-5% of reported knife crime.

Not a lot of stabbing, really. And certainly no shooting.

Also, the UK has approximately 500 homicides a year.

The US more than 25000.

Taking population into account you are approximately 10 times more likely to be murdered in the US than in the UK.
DogMan · 61-69, M
you will constantly live in fear of your neighbour; that is why you will never be safe.

Wavy believes we in AMERICA live in fear of our neighbors and we will never be safe. 🤣

Sounds like I need to start a new thread.
DogMan · 61-69, M
I heard someone talking about why many Democrats are anti-gun.

They say it is because they are perpetual victims, and they dislike self-reliant people,
like gun owners. Someone that carries a gun, is NOT a victim.

One thing you will never see is a gun owner NOT protecting someone else, if SHTF.

Jordon Salinas rendered aid to the wounded after he engaged the shooter. He did not
care about skin color, ethnicity or political beliefs.

 
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