yestestvennaya · 22-25, F
“We compound the tragedy of his death if we turn our backs on what he believed.”
How do you feel about his death?
How do you feel about his death?
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Realifecuckold · 61-69, M
@yestestvennaya You were asking everyone. Don't you know how this works? Read your own question.
ElwoodBlues · M
@yestestvennaya Charlie Kirk's death was a tragedy. His comments about gun deaths have become extremely ironic and I think his death proves his comments were wrong.
I think it’s worth it. I think it’s worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God-given rights. That is a prudent deal. It is rational.
— Charlie Kirk, 5 April 2023.
JSul3 · 70-79
@ElwoodBlues Too late to ask the late Mr. Kirk....but somebody please show me where the Almighty gave anyone any rights, especially the right to own a gun?
missyann · 56-60
Sad. Like many people in this country I’m taking it personally. I’ve lost a friend a mentor and the Christian brand.
He was very intelligent well spoken You’re welcomed open dialogue Especially from those who disagreed with him. He wanted to hear what they had to say. He wanted to understand where they were coming from. This didn’t mean he had to agree with them. Just because he had a response back to what they had to say didn’t mean he didn’t respect them. He did he just refused to lie and agree if he had proof to refute what they said
He was very intelligent well spoken You’re welcomed open dialogue Especially from those who disagreed with him. He wanted to hear what they had to say. He wanted to understand where they were coming from. This didn’t mean he had to agree with them. Just because he had a response back to what they had to say didn’t mean he didn’t respect them. He did he just refused to lie and agree if he had proof to refute what they said
ArishMell · 70-79, M
Irrespective of the politics....
... Censuring or censoring anyone for supporting or opposing a campaigner's views is wrong.
.... Supporting or apologising for murder is WRONG, totally against democracy, and that does need clamping down on.
I know little of Kirk, though a short clip of one of his speeches, and quotes elsewhere suggested to me very misguided, even authoritarian ideas, I certainly oppose. Nevertheless, his killing was utterly pointless and utterly cowardly, and to excuse or support the crime is nearly as bad.
His opinions may have been offensive and arrogant to many people, but his right to be that is precious, however unpleasant others may have found him.
It is a curious aspect of democracy that the very freedom it cherishes, includes the right to call for very non-democratic ideology.
It should never though include the freedom to suppress views and discussion by passive censorship such as banning guest speakers. Most certainly not the "freedom" to incite, support or perfom acts of violence including murder. Such a "freedom" is a blow against real freedom.
... Censuring or censoring anyone for supporting or opposing a campaigner's views is wrong.
.... Supporting or apologising for murder is WRONG, totally against democracy, and that does need clamping down on.
I know little of Kirk, though a short clip of one of his speeches, and quotes elsewhere suggested to me very misguided, even authoritarian ideas, I certainly oppose. Nevertheless, his killing was utterly pointless and utterly cowardly, and to excuse or support the crime is nearly as bad.
His opinions may have been offensive and arrogant to many people, but his right to be that is precious, however unpleasant others may have found him.
It is a curious aspect of democracy that the very freedom it cherishes, includes the right to call for very non-democratic ideology.
It should never though include the freedom to suppress views and discussion by passive censorship such as banning guest speakers. Most certainly not the "freedom" to incite, support or perfom acts of violence including murder. Such a "freedom" is a blow against real freedom.
ninalanyon · 61-69, T
I thought that’s what happens in authoritarian countries:
That's quite correct and is exactly what is happening. The US has always had an authoritarian streak.
bijouxbroussard · F
Ironically, the people trying to shut down free speech think they are honoring him. 🙄
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yestestvennaya · 22-25, F
Shut down? This has long been a practice in the private arena. We will see what happens in the public one.
FreddieUK · 70-79, M
Looks like the ABC TV network and some of its affiliates are already running scared of 'free speech' by cancelling Jimmy Kimmel for saying something.
FreddieUK · 70-79, M
@Realifecuckold More like, but a long way off yet. Plenty of time to resist. We have forces here who are trying to lure us in that direction and I have decided to call them out where I can.
Realifecuckold · 61-69, M
@FreddieUK Perhaps not a long way off at all. Americans are always talking about their Amendment Rights. This proves that their rights can be taken away by a simple phone call. Americans need to stops BS'ing about free speech, or having rights of free speech. The President can stand up and say that a woman is ugly, or she has a low IQ and nothing happens to him, and Jimmy Kimmel says something innocuous, and he gets taken off the air.
JSul3 · 70-79
@Realifecuckold Hungary, dashing faster towards Putin's Russia