Ontheroad · M
I admit it is not murder. So yeah, if you aren't born it isn't murder. And if you believe it is that gives you no right to question my beliefs.
Now, let's talk about facts, not beliefs. What are the pro-life people doing about the millions of unwanted children who are abused, killed, go hungry, get raped, and live a life of pure hell? What about all the children who have to live on the streets because they are unwanted?
Answer that - those are facts. Get your head out of your bum and get real.
Now, let's talk about facts, not beliefs. What are the pro-life people doing about the millions of unwanted children who are abused, killed, go hungry, get raped, and live a life of pure hell? What about all the children who have to live on the streets because they are unwanted?
Answer that - those are facts. Get your head out of your bum and get real.
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BlueVeins · 26-30
2 part answer for this --
1) The thing that makes a human being morally valuable is our sentience. We can think, feel, experience, perceive things. The evidence we have suggests that a fetus probably isn't sentient in the first trimester, so killing them at that point doesn't really warrant moral consideration (intrinsically).
2) Even if and when killing a fetus is morally wrong, that doesn't mean it should be illegal. Pregnancy and birthing a child is pretty traumatic to the body and it can be a massive imposition emotionally. Asking a woman to carry a pregnancy to term when she doesn't want to is not a reasonable request from the perspective of the State.
Given how delicate the situation is, I think even applying social pressure and shame causes more harm than good.
1) The thing that makes a human being morally valuable is our sentience. We can think, feel, experience, perceive things. The evidence we have suggests that a fetus probably isn't sentient in the first trimester, so killing them at that point doesn't really warrant moral consideration (intrinsically).
2) Even if and when killing a fetus is morally wrong, that doesn't mean it should be illegal. Pregnancy and birthing a child is pretty traumatic to the body and it can be a massive imposition emotionally. Asking a woman to carry a pregnancy to term when she doesn't want to is not a reasonable request from the perspective of the State.
Given how delicate the situation is, I think even applying social pressure and shame causes more harm than good.
Theyitis · 36-40, M
At the point that it becomes viable outside the womb. It is wrong to abort a fetus if you can, at that moment, simply deliver it instead. And guess what? Doctors already do that.
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JimboSaturn · 56-60, M
@MoveAlong The blossom has not been fertilized though but the woman's egg has. The egg now has the full genetic material of a human. Now weather that should be treated as a human been as equal to a person who is born is a different matter.
I simply don't believe every fertilized egg is sacred.
I simply don't believe every fertilized egg is sacred.
Midlifemale · 61-69, M
@MoveAlong yeah, WRONG AGAIN.
Aborting the fetus is killing a child
Aborting the fetus is killing a child
PicturesOfABetterTomorrow · 41-45, M
Northwest · M
A Question That No Pro-Death Abortionist Seems to Want to Answer
And how do you know that? Ignorance is not proof your argument is correct, it simply means you're not well informed, either on purpose or just because you're not.
And my personal feelings about this issue are not the issue.
JimboSaturn · 56-60, M
Midlifemale · 61-69, M
Its simply murder and they will try to justify it anyway they see fit for that pregnant girl.
Richard65 · M
@Midlifemale so, you think you should have the right to dictate what a woman does with her own body? How about I tell you what to do with yours, how would that feel?
Midlifemale · 61-69, M
@Richard65 its still murder and illegal.
Unless it endangers the life of the girl or its incest or rape
Unless it endangers the life of the girl or its incest or rape
Richard65 · M
@Midlifemale rape or incest? Why should that matter? Murder is murder, right. You oppose the death penalty too, then?
CurrentName · 51-55, M
Seems like you are answering your own question and are just looking for an argument.
CurrentName · 51-55, M
@DLight
You just proved my case my friend.
You just proved my case my friend.
CurrentName · 51-55, M
@DLight
And just so you know how blind you are. I actually have many reservations about it.
And just so you know how blind you are. I actually have many reservations about it.
@CurrentName How am I "answering my own question"? You're not even making any sense. And when you say you "have reservations about it", does that mean you actually support it in spite of those "reservations"?