consa01 · 70-79, M
I am an intact Kiwi old enough to be your grandfather.
Circumcision is nobody's business except the women you date. Share here what women have told you, as you see fit.
I would guess that no bloke has every said anything to you about it in a changing room. If so, good.
If Kiwi women accept you as you are, and you have no difficulty enjoying intimacy, you needn't worry about anything.
Feel free to message me if your prefer.
Circumcision is nobody's business except the women you date. Share here what women have told you, as you see fit.
I would guess that no bloke has every said anything to you about it in a changing room. If so, good.
If Kiwi women accept you as you are, and you have no difficulty enjoying intimacy, you needn't worry about anything.
Feel free to message me if your prefer.
SW-User
i guess so
Jadorf · 46-50, M
Hi newzealander,
Well I can honestly say I believe the rate of circumcision in nz has even impacted my sexuality.
I'm an Aussie and like 2/3 of us born in the late 70s am circumcised. However I had no idea it was that mainstream until well after high school... And well the internet was around.
We moved to nz before I started school. I remember discovering (bathtime) that my penis looked different to some friends I would stay with our they would stay with us (probably only one or two).
It was enough for me to start thinking there was something unusual about mine.... I became very shy about nudity and changing in front if anyone.
Years later we returned to Australia, I finished primary then began high school, all while managing to avoid communal showers and locker rooms.
If only i had a brother who would be in the same boat and explain more to me...
Occasionally "it" came up... Limited sex ed explanation, irrelevant reference in religion class, or a segment on a current affairs type program.
I remember after discovering whet it was and that i was circumcised - I spent the entire next day at school wondering if anyone else was like me. Who was? Who wasn't? Why? Why not? What it rich boys? Country boys? Anglo boys? What did it mean, how would it affect sex, would girls mind (ha!)
It couldn't be "good" for me that the first few years of puberty were spent thinking about other boys penises.
Once or twice I had a brief conversation about it where I changed the subject very quickly as I was ashamed.... But it turns out I had no need to be...I now know the guys I was talking to were circumcised too... Maybe they were as anxious as me...
Finally, I started a boarding school for year 11+12 - nightmare... Zero privacy!
But I quickly learnt at this school (well off Catholic) my class was 85%+ circumcised. Yep I kept a list. It became an obsession.
Over the years through uni and after, if with friends and drunk enough I would always bring it up to find out who else was "on my team"... Fortunately it's usually the guys I like most.
To this day, any guy I ever met socially or even through work I profile in my head the chances of him being circumcised... Race, place of birth, age, religion (if that easy) socioeconomic factors, older siblings/parents...
Do I like being circumcised, yes I do. I know I'll never know how different sex/jo might be. But I know it looks a hell of a lot better ... there are "pretty" uncut penises but there are a lot more pretty cut penises. To me it just looks more refined/upgraded/finished ... V2.0 if you will.
Anyway you may have gone through more shame/secrecy then me, as in my peer group it is a lot more common then in yours... But that doesn't mean you should worry about it at all either... It is no different to having a big one or a small one... Or if you have curly red hair or are bald... We get what we get. You're you, I'm me and we both have lives (including sex lives) to get on with.
I do think if it was explained to me when I was young (with some kind of reference to my peers status) I may have had a chance to learn about it and move on like somehow 95% of circumcised straight guys do...
Have you ever had a conversation in your family? Any friends? Locker rooms
Just how rare is it in NZ? Say for guys born 1980?
Jamie
Well I can honestly say I believe the rate of circumcision in nz has even impacted my sexuality.
I'm an Aussie and like 2/3 of us born in the late 70s am circumcised. However I had no idea it was that mainstream until well after high school... And well the internet was around.
We moved to nz before I started school. I remember discovering (bathtime) that my penis looked different to some friends I would stay with our they would stay with us (probably only one or two).
It was enough for me to start thinking there was something unusual about mine.... I became very shy about nudity and changing in front if anyone.
Years later we returned to Australia, I finished primary then began high school, all while managing to avoid communal showers and locker rooms.
If only i had a brother who would be in the same boat and explain more to me...
Occasionally "it" came up... Limited sex ed explanation, irrelevant reference in religion class, or a segment on a current affairs type program.
I remember after discovering whet it was and that i was circumcised - I spent the entire next day at school wondering if anyone else was like me. Who was? Who wasn't? Why? Why not? What it rich boys? Country boys? Anglo boys? What did it mean, how would it affect sex, would girls mind (ha!)
It couldn't be "good" for me that the first few years of puberty were spent thinking about other boys penises.
Once or twice I had a brief conversation about it where I changed the subject very quickly as I was ashamed.... But it turns out I had no need to be...I now know the guys I was talking to were circumcised too... Maybe they were as anxious as me...
Finally, I started a boarding school for year 11+12 - nightmare... Zero privacy!
But I quickly learnt at this school (well off Catholic) my class was 85%+ circumcised. Yep I kept a list. It became an obsession.
Over the years through uni and after, if with friends and drunk enough I would always bring it up to find out who else was "on my team"... Fortunately it's usually the guys I like most.
To this day, any guy I ever met socially or even through work I profile in my head the chances of him being circumcised... Race, place of birth, age, religion (if that easy) socioeconomic factors, older siblings/parents...
Do I like being circumcised, yes I do. I know I'll never know how different sex/jo might be. But I know it looks a hell of a lot better ... there are "pretty" uncut penises but there are a lot more pretty cut penises. To me it just looks more refined/upgraded/finished ... V2.0 if you will.
Anyway you may have gone through more shame/secrecy then me, as in my peer group it is a lot more common then in yours... But that doesn't mean you should worry about it at all either... It is no different to having a big one or a small one... Or if you have curly red hair or are bald... We get what we get. You're you, I'm me and we both have lives (including sex lives) to get on with.
I do think if it was explained to me when I was young (with some kind of reference to my peers status) I may have had a chance to learn about it and move on like somehow 95% of circumcised straight guys do...
Have you ever had a conversation in your family? Any friends? Locker rooms
Just how rare is it in NZ? Say for guys born 1980?
Jamie
SW-User
Well it reached 95 percent in 50s and 60s. By the 80s it would have dropped below 50 percent. Also ever since the mid 90s it has been approaching 0. I can say its something not being done now
consa01 · 70-79, M
@Jadorf: I live in New Zealand, and grew up intact in the USA during the 1950s and 60s, when the bald penis was hegemonic. Back then, everybody was circumcised, but nobody talked about it. Most USA maternity wards cut all newborn boys without asking the mother. My doctors and parents said nothing to me about why my penis looked very different from that of other boys. Nothing was written about American circumcision before the books Wallerstein (1980) and Romberg (1985). That circumcision can adversely affect sexual function and enjoyment began to be thought about only after 1990. The New Zealand willy gradually morphed from mushroom to banana purely at the initiative of doctors. This fact goes completely unremarked in day to day life and in parenting magazines.
consa01 · 70-79, M
@freeflow: How the tip of the penis looks is very much bound up with two major religions, custom in many primitive tribes, and the class systems of the English speaking countries.
firefall · 61-69, M
I got circumcised as a baby, I think in NZ at that time it was considered standard practice. As I understand it, circumcision results in a less-sensitive glans, which sounds like a poor idea: but obv there's no real way to know, short of bugging ppl circumcised as adults.
SW-User
my dad probably was cut too since in the 70s it was still higher than 50%, well by the late 90s it was almost 0% but I happened so... :p
consa01 · 70-79, M
@firefall: In my view, it is common sense obvious that circumcision gradually dulls the glans, but science has been unable to nail this.
I suspect that the problem is most apparent after age 40-50, but at that stage in life, men blame any penis deficiencies on aging alone.
I also believe that the body parts removed by circumcision are intensely sexual. They are very rich in nerves. Foreskin motion is a major player in masturbation, foreplay and penetrative sex.
Even men circumcised as adults (who are not that numerous) are limited in what they can say about the sexual consequences of circumcision. Memories of what life was like when they were intact, fade quickly. But it is easy, given contemporary mores, for a woman to date a cut guy one weekend, and an intact guy the next. I have a lot of time for the views of women, and quite a few American and Canadian women have revealed in social media that they prefer intact.
I suspect that the problem is most apparent after age 40-50, but at that stage in life, men blame any penis deficiencies on aging alone.
I also believe that the body parts removed by circumcision are intensely sexual. They are very rich in nerves. Foreskin motion is a major player in masturbation, foreplay and penetrative sex.
Even men circumcised as adults (who are not that numerous) are limited in what they can say about the sexual consequences of circumcision. Memories of what life was like when they were intact, fade quickly. But it is easy, given contemporary mores, for a woman to date a cut guy one weekend, and an intact guy the next. I have a lot of time for the views of women, and quite a few American and Canadian women have revealed in social media that they prefer intact.
tynamite · 31-35, M
Being intact is better. It decreases the risk of cancer.
consa01 · 70-79, M
@tynamite: Intact increases the risk of cancer, if one doesn't wash and one has an irresponsible sex life.
pdqsailor1 · 61-69, M
I am a bit older than you are.. I too was circumcised as an infant at the decision of my Parents. This was something they did for me not too me...
I have friends who were circumcised as adults - they and their spouses reported improvements in hygiene and sexual function.
My Wife makes very regular and frequent use of my circumcised penis... She will tell you that it works quite well and she too is grateful to my Parents for the gift they gave us both...
Would I circumcise my Son or Grandson - with absolute certainty...
I have friends who were circumcised as adults - they and their spouses reported improvements in hygiene and sexual function.
My Wife makes very regular and frequent use of my circumcised penis... She will tell you that it works quite well and she too is grateful to my Parents for the gift they gave us both...
Would I circumcise my Son or Grandson - with absolute certainty...
jimjim1969 · M
I think circumcised is best, better looking and cleaner
consa01 · 70-79, M
@jimjim1969: Better looking? Do you know what an erect intact penis looks like? Do you appreciate that the job of the penis is not to thrill a woman's eyes, but to make her and her partner FEEL GOOD?
jimjim1969 · M
Your opinion
benJohnson99 · 18-21, M
me I am uncut I could not imagine being circumcised x