this is a hard one for me who has and still do deal with depression i will never understand how someone could ‘fake’ doing so, it’s not something to joke about with and the people who do so just for the attention has no idea how hard it is for those who deal with it on a day to day situation, but yes i do think people do . .

fakers tell people about it.. over and over and over and over...

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and these frauds who come in whining about killing themselves really i mean REALLY piss me off!

ugh, don't get me started on them... they're garbage!

The simple answer is you don't know. I used to work as a volunteer working with people who were in a life crises and said they wanted to end it all. I've spoken to and met men and woman across all walks of life with depression. Often they're ashamed at how they feel, often feel guilty, often so deep into their own self doubts and lack of esteem they really see no other way of dealing with things.

The biggest by far suicide victims are males between 15 and 35, though that last figure is rising. Para suicides (people who go through the motions but expect to be stopped or found before death) are mainly females.

Depression cannot be seen, it has no smell, no taste nor flavour. It can effect anyone and often when we least expect it. It isn't really understood, even by those who suffer with it. It isn't like a broken arm or a stomach bug that can be fixed or cleaned out but it's just as painful, and just as personal.

Before dismissing someone you should consider this: What if it was your brother, sister, husband, wife, mother, father, child?

Just over twenty years ago I worked with a guy who hanged himself. Long story short his wife walked out on him and he simply couldn't cope at the prospect. He was in his mid 30's. The by far most heartbreaking thing for those who worked with him was that he also left his five year old daughter. Even now it upsets me to think she's now about 26 and probably can't remember him.

All I ask is next time someone looks like they're at the absolute end of their tether and can't cope; They're probably not kidding around and you should at least ask how they feel...[b]NEVER EVER[/b] say "I know how you feel". You don't. You never will, don't even pretend, any more than they can know how you feel.

The fact is, there is no tried-and-true way to tell who's depressed and who's suicidal from those who are neither.

People like to say those who speak the loudest about it are the least sincere, but that's very dangerous thinking. The internet can be a safe and anonymous place on which to seek help without fear of exposure. While there are definitely people who seek attention, they're much rarer than those who actually seek help.

To ignore the words and actions of somebody who says they're suicidal and depressed is to risk losing that person for good. The most effective way to assess someone's true intention is to ask them about it directly.

Some. Usually people that are clinically depressed either have it in their eyes if that makes any sense or you can’t tell at all. If someone is actually suicidal, like people that are depressed, you usually can’t tell either. Threatening to end it all is usually a last cry for help but it’s never constant.

The degree, amount and detail of ideation.

Just because someone talks about but doesn’t fit the DSM criteria for being diagnosed as suicidal doesn’t mean they’re not in pain and in need of attention.

They may even think they are suicidal.

Some no doubt but I'd say there are plenty of genuine cases. I believe in giving people the benefit of the doubt; even fantasists have a need for something and why should we be so arrogant as to sneer at them.

People who try to take their own lives several times and fail are definitely asking for help/attention.

I don't judge. If I give my attention to someone that isn't going to kill themselves anyway? No harm done, not much time wasted, not a big deal.

The fact of the matter is, they probably needed someone to talk to anyway.

No one,not even mental health professionals know for sure,which is why ,at the very least we should not taunt anyone posting suicidal feelings

i think they would be desperate for attention then meaning they could well jump of a bridge if they didn't get any

Yes. I know somebody personally who fakes it for attention. He also fakes seizures for attention and claims he has epilepsy.

Yes, you cant. What about the silent one who never mentioned it but quit living one day?

I'm sure some do, but I can't think of any way you could tell between them.

On the web, it is quite difficult. In corporeal life....you know...

Sure, and you can't.