@Pineapple well in a way all females are feminists(equality type) cause we all want it

@celine211 yes of course. but i’m just saying that when someone says feminist nowadays, most people think of those social justice warriors you see all over who are literal man haters and spew the most ridiculous shit. hence a lot of women rejecting the label. some of us do want equality... others give us a bad name by claiming to want equality but really, they want to be superior and aren’t sly about it

👍 Sorry man. :) @Lackwittyname

@Lackwittyname feminism is worse in that it bashes men for being men. patriarchy on the other hand can be oppressive in some ways but not as much as against the sexual nature of women. patriarchy also means taking care of family, the wife. what does feminism mean today? well we see it out there. being a burden on the happiness of both men and women.

@Lackwittyname how many societies have been destroyed by feminism? we are in the progress of getting pretty much destroyed. go figure.

@HoraceGreenley Ironically, he's a huge feminist.

@CountScrofula That's funny. i have no idea who it is.

@Greenbare which of the extremes are more destructive . early 20th century standards or today's feminist standards. feminists in politics is like a suicide attempt

@SW-User I say this sincerely - you don't understand what you're talking about. You are relying on what other people have told you about feminism, rather than what feminists have told you about feminism.

Engage with people on their own terms.

@Lackwittyname the ones who identify themselves as feminists today have reached a low point in quality my dude. they promote hostility towards men. thats perhaps the reason why we have so many men not taking care of women any more.

@CountScrofula as pineapple put it most women who genuinely support equality - not hostility or warfare against men - reject the label feminism as it's connoted with so much negativity thanks to feminists. so i actually made a distinction