ArishMell · 70-79, M
For rather tasteless, illogical hyperbole that takes some beating. You are usually above that.
(The proposal is being resurrected as a Private Members' Bill.)
(The proposal is being resurrected as a Private Members' Bill.)
peterlee · M
@ArishMell The quote, of course, is a rephrasing of the case outlined by Norman Tebbitt.
I suggest you read Torson Bell’, Great Britain?, which outlines our Minister of Pension’s thinking.
The House of Commons is not a better judge on ethical and moral issues, than the House of Lords. So why should they impose their will there.
On a personal note I’ve watched the horrific death of my mother, over several months, riddled with various cancers. Yet she never once suggested termination. She was relatively young.
Also for fifteen years I was a carer, my first wife was put under constant pressure by the NHS to be sterilised.
And lastly I have a grandchild with hearing difficulties and is cleft. His parents were pressurised to have a late abortion. This could be done up to thirty five weeks.
The NHS is not fit to make decisions like this. It is an opening for Harold Shipman and Lucy Letby.
Life is too precious.
I suggest you read Torson Bell’, Great Britain?, which outlines our Minister of Pension’s thinking.
The House of Commons is not a better judge on ethical and moral issues, than the House of Lords. So why should they impose their will there.
On a personal note I’ve watched the horrific death of my mother, over several months, riddled with various cancers. Yet she never once suggested termination. She was relatively young.
Also for fifteen years I was a carer, my first wife was put under constant pressure by the NHS to be sterilised.
And lastly I have a grandchild with hearing difficulties and is cleft. His parents were pressurised to have a late abortion. This could be done up to thirty five weeks.
The NHS is not fit to make decisions like this. It is an opening for Harold Shipman and Lucy Letby.
Life is too precious.
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@peterlee I am very sorry for how you lost you mother: my own parents died similarly after vey long illnesses.
The point though is that of allowing choice. Not everyone wants to go as our parents did, or from some awful wasting disease like the advanced dementia that took my longest-standing friend (though a combination of heart problem and Covid was the coup de grace).
I do not take your reference to Shipman (who was proven to be a murderer) and Letby (over whom there is still a serious question-mark) as helpful or relevant.
The point though is that of allowing choice. Not everyone wants to go as our parents did, or from some awful wasting disease like the advanced dementia that took my longest-standing friend (though a combination of heart problem and Covid was the coup de grace).
I do not take your reference to Shipman (who was proven to be a murderer) and Letby (over whom there is still a serious question-mark) as helpful or relevant.
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senghenydd · M
@HootyTheNightOwl Care Homes do solve a problem, OMG I hope I manage to stay out of them, very sad places.
@senghenydd So would the assisted dying bill if it becomes law.
Thinkingdeeper · 36-40, M
More concerning than just the legislation is using the parliament act to get it through the Lords. It needs proper scrutiny which it received the first time but wont this time.
