Thank you, God, for providing us with your Plan of Salvation, so that we could be Heirs of Heaven. And my sincere, deepest thanks and gratitude to you, Jesus, for your great, unconditional love, and for saving us by your selfless work of salvation. You not only said you love us...you proved it! For that I shall always be grateful.
Amen 🙏
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Lionehaza · 36-40, M
@BritishFailedAesthetic Jesus prayed a lot to his God and God saved him from thier torment.He never died if he died he could be changed in to spirit.but not.....rather just before he was taken to God he ate and drin to prove to the deciples that he was in flesh and bone.God decieve them they think they killed yet he saved jesus.
Lionehaza · 36-40, M
@LadyGrace While they were still talking about this, Jesus himself stood among them and said to them, “Peace be with you.”
37 They were startled and frightened, thinking they saw a ghost. 38 He said to them, “Why are you troubled, and why do doubts rise in your minds? 39 Look at my hands and my feet. It is I myself! Touch me and see; a ghost does not have flesh and bones, as you see I have.”
40 When he had said this, he showed them his hands and feet. 41 And while they still did not believe it because of joy and amazement, he asked them, “Do you have anything here to eat?” 42 They gave him a piece of broiled fish, 43 and he took it and ate it in their presence.
37 They were startled and frightened, thinking they saw a ghost. 38 He said to them, “Why are you troubled, and why do doubts rise in your minds? 39 Look at my hands and my feet. It is I myself! Touch me and see; a ghost does not have flesh and bones, as you see I have.”
40 When he had said this, he showed them his hands and feet. 41 And while they still did not believe it because of joy and amazement, he asked them, “Do you have anything here to eat?” 42 They gave him a piece of broiled fish, 43 and he took it and ate it in their presence.
Lionehaza · 36-40, M
If Jesus died he would have been turned in to ghost or a spirit.But he proves that he never dies and not turned in to ghost so he gave them his hand to confirm he is flesh.yet they dont belive him so ate and drink so that he prove them that he is not ghost never died...
IM5688 · 61-69, M
How did Jesus volunteer himself as Savior of the world and to pay for our sins?
Just as lambs were chosen for sacrifice in the Old Testament and up until the time of Christ, I don't think Jesus volunteered himself, but rather was chosen by God to be the sacrifice. His sacrifice allowed our sins to be forgiven. Our acceptance and belief in Him and his sacrifice gives us God's gift, (through Jesus,) of eternal life.
While of course God knew the plans for Jesus, I don't think Jesus knew his fathers plans immediately, but rather found out later in his life.
Thoughts/comments welcome.
Just as lambs were chosen for sacrifice in the Old Testament and up until the time of Christ, I don't think Jesus volunteered himself, but rather was chosen by God to be the sacrifice. His sacrifice allowed our sins to be forgiven. Our acceptance and belief in Him and his sacrifice gives us God's gift, (through Jesus,) of eternal life.
While of course God knew the plans for Jesus, I don't think Jesus knew his fathers plans immediately, but rather found out later in his life.
Thoughts/comments welcome.
@IM5688 You are correct about Jesus not realizing his role as a child, until around 12 or 13 yrs of age. While on earth in the flesh, He was just like us....learning and growing. There was good reason for that, as well. Jesus wanted us to understand that He could relate to us on a personal basis, as He experienced things as we do, since He came to us in the flesh. He understands everything about us.
Do you think the cross could hold Jesus, against His will? Never. God the Father didn't force Jesus to do anything against His will. He doesn't even force us to do anything against our will. Even though He never wants to lose one of us to the influence of Satan. Jesus wanted to save us from the condemnation sin placed on us.
When the Bible says that God appointed Jesus to be Savior of the world, that's because He found Jesus to be the only one worthy enough to save mankind, since only a perfect, sinless sacrifice can pay for our sins, which could be none other, than Jesus. He was the only one that God the Father approve of and found worthy enough, to be Savior of the world. There was no other that could take His place.
Jesus wanted to accept this role and save His creation from sure spiritual, eternal death. God the Father made a plan to save mankind, yes, but don't forget...the bible mentions the Godhead...God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit...all 3 make up One God... all three of them conferred together in this plan and what it would entail. One does not do anything without the other, as they are always in total agreement and work in total agreement. As a teen, He told Joseph and Mary, they should not have been worried about him, as He knew He had to be about His Father's business.
Jesus wanted to do the will of His Father, out of His great love for Him, and us. He didn't have to do anything. He wanted to save us from hell, because that is his character, He is love personified. His love for us is ineffable. He could have called down 10,000 angels to rescue Him from the cross, but He didn't. He suffered horribly, to the agonizing end. He didn't even complain or shout at His enemies. He voluntarily accepted His part in saving mankind and His love so great for us, He was willing to be humiliated, spit upon, thrashed with a whip within an inch of his life, humiliated and cursed, then nailed to a cross. Look what He said when He was on the cross, about his enemies, who nailed his hands and feet to the cross and suspended him between Heaven and Earth. Which, by the way, also signifies his role as our Mediator between God and man, as well as His great love for us. Jesus looked up into heaven and said to His Father, of His enemies, "Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do!"
Jesus not only said He loves us, He proved His love for us. And it is absolutely inconceivable that some people still won't believe in Him. He gave His all for us. Even unto death. I don't know how in the world, we could give Him less than our all, as well. For those who want redemption and salvation, He saved us from an eternity in hell. No one else could do that. God said so. He would know. It wasn't even Himself that He thought about on that cross. He had His mind on us, and what He could do for us. He was willing to do anything to save us and He proved it.
Do you think the cross could hold Jesus, against His will? Never. God the Father didn't force Jesus to do anything against His will. He doesn't even force us to do anything against our will. Even though He never wants to lose one of us to the influence of Satan. Jesus wanted to save us from the condemnation sin placed on us.
When the Bible says that God appointed Jesus to be Savior of the world, that's because He found Jesus to be the only one worthy enough to save mankind, since only a perfect, sinless sacrifice can pay for our sins, which could be none other, than Jesus. He was the only one that God the Father approve of and found worthy enough, to be Savior of the world. There was no other that could take His place.
Jesus wanted to accept this role and save His creation from sure spiritual, eternal death. God the Father made a plan to save mankind, yes, but don't forget...the bible mentions the Godhead...God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit...all 3 make up One God... all three of them conferred together in this plan and what it would entail. One does not do anything without the other, as they are always in total agreement and work in total agreement. As a teen, He told Joseph and Mary, they should not have been worried about him, as He knew He had to be about His Father's business.
Jesus wanted to do the will of His Father, out of His great love for Him, and us. He didn't have to do anything. He wanted to save us from hell, because that is his character, He is love personified. His love for us is ineffable. He could have called down 10,000 angels to rescue Him from the cross, but He didn't. He suffered horribly, to the agonizing end. He didn't even complain or shout at His enemies. He voluntarily accepted His part in saving mankind and His love so great for us, He was willing to be humiliated, spit upon, thrashed with a whip within an inch of his life, humiliated and cursed, then nailed to a cross. Look what He said when He was on the cross, about his enemies, who nailed his hands and feet to the cross and suspended him between Heaven and Earth. Which, by the way, also signifies his role as our Mediator between God and man, as well as His great love for us. Jesus looked up into heaven and said to His Father, of His enemies, "Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do!"
Jesus not only said He loves us, He proved His love for us. And it is absolutely inconceivable that some people still won't believe in Him. He gave His all for us. Even unto death. I don't know how in the world, we could give Him less than our all, as well. For those who want redemption and salvation, He saved us from an eternity in hell. No one else could do that. God said so. He would know. It wasn't even Himself that He thought about on that cross. He had His mind on us, and what He could do for us. He was willing to do anything to save us and He proved it.