@SoFine If that is true, why did Jesus make this statement: John 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

@SoFine Believers have Christ living within their hearts, but they are not Christ.

@Silverwings [quote]So you say, but you could never convince me[/quote]
Just as you keep saying it is real but you'll never convince me without some real evidence to back it up.

@Sharon Jesus said that unbelievers were without excuse, because nature itself shows forth the glory of God. So the only proof you will get is all around you. Just open your eyes and your heart, and let the King of Glory come it.

@Silverwings [quote]because nature itself shows forth the glory of God. So the only proof you will get is all around you.[/quote]
That is not proof of [b]your specific god[/b]. Some people would say, with at least equal justification, that's it's proof of Gaia. Others would say it's not proof of any god. For all we know it could be proof of The Flying Spaghetti Monster. I notice a lot of christians are desperate to deny It lives but, thus far, not one has been able to prove that It doesn't.

[quote]Just open your eyes and your heart, and let the King of Glory come it.[/quote]
Who is that then? How about opening your eyes and your heart, and letting the Queen of Glory in?

@Sicarium I pray that this will soon change.