Adstar · 56-60, M
I make a point of not watching movies about Jesus.. They usually take away from His teachings and inject their own teachings into His worlds..
There is a very serious curse in the Bible upon people who add too or take away from the Message of the Bible.. So i do not want to take part in anything that does that..
There is a very serious curse in the Bible upon people who add too or take away from the Message of the Bible.. So i do not want to take part in anything that does that..
sree251 · 41-45, M
@Adstar
Good point. First of all, never mind the movies. We know that the very image of Jesus is fabricated by the imagination of Renaissance artists. Secondly, the Gospels, chronicling the Life of Jesus, are confessional stories, transmitted hearsay, which is a better word for rumor, recorded by third parties. The assemblages of those varied scriptural writings resulted in more than one form of the Christian Bible.
So, that means you take the authority of the Bible seriously, that it is God's word.
I make a point of not watching movies about Jesus.. They usually take away from His teachings and inject their own teachings into His worlds..
Good point. First of all, never mind the movies. We know that the very image of Jesus is fabricated by the imagination of Renaissance artists. Secondly, the Gospels, chronicling the Life of Jesus, are confessional stories, transmitted hearsay, which is a better word for rumor, recorded by third parties. The assemblages of those varied scriptural writings resulted in more than one form of the Christian Bible.
There is a very serious curse in the Bible upon people who add too or take away from the Message of the Bible.. So i do not want to take part in anything that does that..
So, that means you take the authority of the Bible seriously, that it is God's word.
The Greatest Story Ever Told does come from the Bible. It is in the Bible. We cannot count on man's idea of what they think God said. These Biblical movies are sometimes enhanced and even the truths from the bible, twisted, with inaccurate accounts. They cannot be dependent upon. I'll take God's word over man's, anytime.
sree251 · 41-45, M
@LadyGrace
The movie of that title was based on Fulton Oursler's 1949 novel which told of the life of Jesus from the four canonical Gospels of the New Testament.
It was in Fulton Oursler's mind that Jesus' teaching inspired the creation of the novel.
Man's idea is all we have to intuit what Jesus taught.
The word is not the thing. The word "door" is not the actual door. Reading words is like reading smoke signals. Jesus' teaching cannot be verbalized.
The Greatest Story Ever Told does come from the Bible.
The movie of that title was based on Fulton Oursler's 1949 novel which told of the life of Jesus from the four canonical Gospels of the New Testament.
It is in the Bible.
It was in Fulton Oursler's mind that Jesus' teaching inspired the creation of the novel.
We cannot count on man's idea of what they think God said. These Biblical movies are sometimes enhanced and even the truths from the bible, twisted, with inaccurate accounts. They cannot be dependent upon.
Man's idea is all we have to intuit what Jesus taught.
I'll take God's word over man's, anytime.
The word is not the thing. The word "door" is not the actual door. Reading words is like reading smoke signals. Jesus' teaching cannot be verbalized.
sree251 · 41-45, M
@LadyGrace
What other means do we have other than the verbalization of thought?
The movie was about Jesus' teaching. The power of redemption is open for discussion. You could see it as
the action of saving or being saved from sin, error, or evil. I view it as the action of regaining the state of freedom from conflict in relationship with ourselves and others.
Is this what Jesus taught?
That's where you're wrong. Man's idea is not all we have.
What other means do we have other than the verbalization of thought?
I'm just saying that the greatest story ever told is the story about Jesus and his redemptive power. It's in the Bible.
The movie was about Jesus' teaching. The power of redemption is open for discussion. You could see it as
the action of saving or being saved from sin, error, or evil. I view it as the action of regaining the state of freedom from conflict in relationship with ourselves and others.
Man's ideas are not above God's and they are flawed.
Is this what Jesus taught?
val70 · 56-60
There's a lot of methods in the realm of reflective meditation. Last Lent I spent the weeks in trying to delve into some classical music piece that speak to me, find the meaning for the actual composer and musicians, and then see the link with God.
My own cinematic favourite moment for the Bible stories is Ernest Borgnine's portrail of a Roman centurion in yet another movie about Christ's story
My own cinematic favourite moment for the Bible stories is Ernest Borgnine's portrail of a Roman centurion in yet another movie about Christ's story
sree251 · 41-45, M
@val70
Reflective meditation is a good way to put it. I do this watching the sunrise from the beginning of twilight just before the appearance of sunglow scattering on the horizon. And you do this through listening to classical music. Can you share one learning of Jesus' teaching you have gotten from this meditation?
And how does this help you with Jesus' teaching as you see it?
There's a lot of methods in the realm of reflective meditation. Last Lent I spent the weeks in trying to delve into some classical music piece that speak to me, find the meaning for the actual composer and musicians, and then see the link with God.
Reflective meditation is a good way to put it. I do this watching the sunrise from the beginning of twilight just before the appearance of sunglow scattering on the horizon. And you do this through listening to classical music. Can you share one learning of Jesus' teaching you have gotten from this meditation?
My own cinematic favourite moment for the Bible stories is Ernest Borgnine's portrail of a Roman centurion in yet another movie about Christ's story
And how does this help you with Jesus' teaching as you see it?
sree251 · 41-45, M
@val70
Above, within, whatever. What do you mean by "grace"?
Ernie's tears are nothing compared to a stigmata: the spontaneous, often unexplained appearance of bodily wounds, scars, or pain corresponding to the crucifixion wounds of Jesus Christ. Is this Jesus' teaching as you see it?
Answer question 1: Grace comes always from above;
Above, within, whatever. What do you mean by "grace"?
answer question 2: the moment that Ernie heard the lines read by director Zeffirelli leads one to insight
Ernie's tears are nothing compared to a stigmata: the spontaneous, often unexplained appearance of bodily wounds, scars, or pain corresponding to the crucifixion wounds of Jesus Christ. Is this Jesus' teaching as you see it?
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sree251 · 41-45, M
@FreddieUK
You should watch it even if it is to familiarize yourself with my religious background. If you were a Christian from the Church of Christ, Scientist, I would read up on its doctrines in order to relate with you better. Spiritual inquiry is not a dogmatic enterprise. I have debated rimpoches on what the Buddha taught.
I haven’t seen this film, and it won’t play on my computer at the moment. I am only popping in here for a few minutes. Hope to beback later.
You should watch it even if it is to familiarize yourself with my religious background. If you were a Christian from the Church of Christ, Scientist, I would read up on its doctrines in order to relate with you better. Spiritual inquiry is not a dogmatic enterprise. I have debated rimpoches on what the Buddha taught.
sree251 · 41-45, M
@FreddieUK
By the way, forget about watching that movie (Shoes of the Fisherman). It was an insensitive request on my part. I wasn't thinking. Imagine some Latter-day Saints discussant asking me to watch a film on Joseph Smith. I don't think I could muster the energy to do it. lol
You are ok, Freddie. Christianity has not wrecked your mind. You are not a Bible thumper. You have not lost the objectivity of a scientific mind that is sane even though it cannot transcend the material world.
The practicalities of faith are written about in full in the Letter of James. He makes it clear that true faith is dead without the actions which demonstrate it. Unless I live out what I profess to believe, I might as well not bother.
By the way, forget about watching that movie (Shoes of the Fisherman). It was an insensitive request on my part. I wasn't thinking. Imagine some Latter-day Saints discussant asking me to watch a film on Joseph Smith. I don't think I could muster the energy to do it. lol
You are ok, Freddie. Christianity has not wrecked your mind. You are not a Bible thumper. You have not lost the objectivity of a scientific mind that is sane even though it cannot transcend the material world.
Charity · 70-79
Your words are "Jesus took on the form of actor Max von Sydow," exactly what do you mean by that? The actor roll playing Jesus or Jesus literally being the actor?
sree251 · 41-45, M
@Charity
Great question. A straight answer is Jesus literally being the actor. Jesus is Max von Sydow who inhabited the Son of God made flesh.
Your words are "Jesus took on the form of actor Max von Sydow," exactly what do you mean by that? The actor roll playing Jesus or Jesus literally being the actor?
Great question. A straight answer is Jesus literally being the actor. Jesus is Max von Sydow who inhabited the Son of God made flesh.
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