Lushiro · M
Universal salvation is not quite accurate. There is no salvation outside of Jesus Christ. He can save people outside of the boundries of the Church because His Church is also His Mystical Body which is those who accept and believe in Him, not just those who were baptized and confirmed. Jesus can save people in numerous ways.
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@Lushiro I have the same problem brother hahaha it's so hard to perceive tone or intent, when writing. I can come off as too forceful as well, when I have no intention of doing so. I will pray for us as well so we can improve communication not only between ourselves but to be careful with others as well, that we communicate with. There's no way I want to argue with anyone, especially a brother or sister in Christ. God bless you and give you health and protection always. Much love is sent as your sister in Christ. Thank you for your understanding and for helping me see my mistakes.
peterlee · M
You can’t go far wrong by supporting the marginalised in society.
Matt26.31 onwards.
It is not for us to judge.
He (Jesus) is the sacrifice which atones for our sins, and not only ours only, either, but those of the entire world
I John 2,2
Matt26.31 onwards.
It is not for us to judge.
He (Jesus) is the sacrifice which atones for our sins, and not only ours only, either, but those of the entire world
I John 2,2
@peterlee Yes. That's what I said. Jesus died for the whole world, not just some. I'm sure Jesus would say there's no judgment in quoting his word as he spoke of how to be saved. If you will notice in my last paragraph that I have said to each their own. If people do not wish to believe as Jesus says in His Word, and of which I have quoted, that is their prerogative. There was no judgment there.
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@DanielsASJ I believe the better word there, would be judge, not comment. He is judging Godspeed.
@peterlee You and I agree 100% that the gospel should be taught with kindness and gentleness. Two of the fruits of the Spirit. Gal5.22. I have never been in favor of scare tactic preaching or teaching Hellfire and brimstone. Even Jesus did not do that. He spoke in love to the crowds.
You mentioned, "It is not for your to limit God’s love, or his mercy, or forgiveness." I didn't see anyone here doing that.
You mentioned, "It is not for your to limit God’s love, or his mercy, or forgiveness." I didn't see anyone here doing that.
DanielsASJ · 36-40, M
Universal salvation definitely is a socialist philosophy and a socialist idea. How can they do this to scriptures?
Without Faith in Jesus Christ, we never attain salvation. And Jesus Christ, many a times, told his disciples, it is a very narrow path. If salvation was the end result of all, it would be a wide path. So, clearly these churches do not preach the teachings of The True Scripture.
Without Faith in Jesus Christ, we never attain salvation. And Jesus Christ, many a times, told his disciples, it is a very narrow path. If salvation was the end result of all, it would be a wide path. So, clearly these churches do not preach the teachings of The True Scripture.
FreddieUK · 70-79, M
@DanielsASJ Socialism is not any more of a sinful way of life than capitalism and has nothing to do with Christ's salvation. The eliding if politics into theology is the error of certain parts of the Church. We know the early church had all things in common and we know that individual business people are mentioned with approval in the Bible. The Church is required to preach the Gospel to all. That's it. Individuals who commit to following Jesus after accepting their sinful state and His reconciling work personally are required to do as He taught. We must remember who our neighbour is as well as placing God before all else. They are equally important in Jesus summary of the Law.
For clarity, I do not believe in universal salvation.
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For clarity, I do not believe in universal salvation.
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DanielsASJ · 36-40, M
@FreddieUK It was not my intention to bring political socialism here. Socialism in a broader sense that makes everyone to live their life the way they want, not caring about good life, bad life, sins and not even believing in God, but still receiving salvation. That socialism I was talking about, Not the one we compare with Capitalism.
FreddieUK · 70-79, M
@DanielsASJ Thank you for that clarification. I hadn't heard that use of the term before. It would not be used that way, I think in a UK church context. As I am always saying on here, I like to learn how other people are thinking and I will be aware in future of understanding the term 'socialism' in the context of who's using it.
Roadsterrider · 56-60, M
At the end of the book is judgement, if your name isn't in the lamb's book of life, you are cast into the lake of fire.
@Roadsterrider By choice.
@Lushiro Yes, while salvation is secure for those who believe, believers can still lose rewards, an inheritance in heaven, due to their choices and actions. The book of Revelation talks about this.
In Deuteronomy 4:21-22, Moses was disqualified from entering the Promised Land due to his disobedience, highlighting his loss of inheritance due to sin.
1 Corinthians 3:11-15:
This passage discusses the judgment of believers' works, with some works being burned up by Holy Spirit fire as worthless, meaning a loss of reward for those who fail to build their lives on a solid foundation.
In Deuteronomy 4:21-22, Moses was disqualified from entering the Promised Land due to his disobedience, highlighting his loss of inheritance due to sin.
1 Corinthians 3:11-15:
This passage discusses the judgment of believers' works, with some works being burned up by Holy Spirit fire as worthless, meaning a loss of reward for those who fail to build their lives on a solid foundation.