Is anyone able to articulate a convincing argument against a single payer US health care system?
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Gauntlets28 · 26-30, M
@MasterLee You know, in pretty much every country where a national health service exists, private alternatives also exist for those who wish for it. And besides, a national health service is very much on record as typically improving national health in every country one is set up, because it means that everyone on public healthcare is treated equally, rather than some being neglected due to less expensive insurance.
katielass · F
@Gauntlets28 yes, I have friends who live in Europe and I've heard the stories about how they're sent home the day after having half their intestines removed. Naturally they go back because they get infected, don't know how to handle a colostomy, have a stroke or heart attack. We are used to much better care here in the US and that will not go over at all. At least when something goes wrong here its almost always the fault of a noncompliant patient.
katielass · F
It will speed up the implementation of healthcare rationing. Under Obamacare we've already seen rationing. A Nevada doc who was trying to work with two different insurance companies because they refused to approve a lifesaving treatment for 2 of his patients was told by the insurance companies that they will not pay for the treatment and then asked him, have you considered assisted suicide?
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
katielass · F
@jackjjackson I didn't get the story online. The doc was a guest on a show on Fox. I cant swear but I believe it was on Hannity. I'll look and see if Hannity has a web site he night have it on there.
Picklebobble2 · 56-60, M
Have to make your government responsible for it.
Everybody contributes a percentage of whatever they're earning.
A 'National Insurance' type thing.
But you have to get rid of the insurance companies.
They're only concern is to see a return for their shareholders.
If you make the government responsible for it's running and upkeep, you can bet your life (figuratively speaking) they'll try and get it running efficiently.
May have to make it a pre-requisite that any Med. student taking government funding for their training has to spend a period of time working in public healthcare for a period after they qualify.
Before, no doubt, trying to get into lucrative private practice.
But you can't continue to make it so politically biased.
I was going to try and do some research this week. See how many Senators or congressmen are actually members of hospital boards or on the board of certain insurance companies.
I wondered if that might have been a reason why America constantly goes around and around on this issue.
Everybody contributes a percentage of whatever they're earning.
A 'National Insurance' type thing.
But you have to get rid of the insurance companies.
They're only concern is to see a return for their shareholders.
If you make the government responsible for it's running and upkeep, you can bet your life (figuratively speaking) they'll try and get it running efficiently.
May have to make it a pre-requisite that any Med. student taking government funding for their training has to spend a period of time working in public healthcare for a period after they qualify.
Before, no doubt, trying to get into lucrative private practice.
But you can't continue to make it so politically biased.
I was going to try and do some research this week. See how many Senators or congressmen are actually members of hospital boards or on the board of certain insurance companies.
I wondered if that might have been a reason why America constantly goes around and around on this issue.
curmudgeon1968 · 51-55, M
not one that will convince those who think it is a good idea