How is your country looking with Covid? Medically and Economically (NOT America)

Hmm....@bijouxbroussard

Coronavirus or Communist Virus to be more precise, @bijouxbroussard ?

@NangiUniverse That would [b]only[/b] be relevant if it solely infected capitalists and [b]spared[/b] Communists.
Doesn’t appear to operate that way, so trying to lay blame shouldn’t be more of a focus than defeating it and saving lives. 😳

Lol, just joking, sorry @bijouxbroussard.

@NangiUniverse Ah, okay. 😊

Yet however, the cases in China seems to be somehow much lower than the rest than even neighboring Japan, @bijouxbroussard.

Except, for the metropolis of Wuhan, the rest of China seems to be almost fine.

@NangiUniverse Two possibilities there:
a) Within totalitarianism, lockdown, social distancing and masks are not a [b]suggestion[/b] like they are in the West, so more people may be doing what is needed to lower the infection rate.
b) They could be withholding actual numbers.

Well, quite true @bijouxbroussard. Yet from where was it made, in the first place, even if there were some US scientists being accused of being involved ?

There is joke that [i]this[/i] is something made in this respective country, that has been lasting much longer.

@NangiUniverse Well, people in the West go back and forth about whether or not this virus was deliberately man-made, accidentally man-made or a disease that developed from something else. But again, none of that information is relevant unless it can somehow be related to developing a vaccine or a way of destroying the virus that is causing worldwide illness and death.

Well, quite true @bijouxbroussard. However, this perspective not only lies in the West, but also among many Asian nations, such as, India, which is against China.

@bijouxbroussard The local archbishop yesterday issued a statement : "If the off-licences can be open so can the churches". 90% of his followers will take that as the ultimate statement. One can pick up a laptop and order wine for home delivery. So where is the connection?

@NangiUniverse @bijouxbroussard accidental looks likely from the biology.

This is an interesting paper on it...

https://www.crstonline.com/article.asp?issn=2590-3233;year=2020;volume=3;issue=2;spage=284;epage=286;aulast=Chaturvedi

They point to a leak somehow from the Wuhan institute. I wonder if the initial species jump happened there and they just used the local set market as a cover up? 🤷‍♂️

Whatever look at the exercise done in 2018 where a pandemic from South American pigs spreading coronavirus to humans was simulated. Essentially same problem. We interact with animals it will happen sooner or later. Now it had the start seems irrelevant

@bijouxbroussard such[b] winning[/b]

@bijouxbroussard Here in OZ and NZ we have one advantage of being islands and isolated.. So we never got the large numbers of cases and luckily the govt jumped early and hard.. A few small pieces of bad luck but we are basically clear and with masks and care, we can hopefully stay that way until vaccines arrive.. Of course the economies have taken a hammering. But a quick medical recovery should mean a faster return to economic progress as well.😷

Well, quite true @SW-User. Also, I am getting to know that a lot of people in China are turning to vegetarianism, after this pandemic. It was actually hard for me to be a vegetarian, on certain days during my stay in China before.

@SW-User [quote] Now it had the start seems irrelevant[/quote]
Exactly my point. Even if we knew beyond a shadow of doubt where and how it began, it’s [b]here[/b] now. [b]Everywhere[/b] on the globe. Finding a way to defeat it is in everyone’s best interest. Focusing on “who’s to blame” is a moot point and colossal waste of time.

Hopefully, mate.

@whowasthatmaskedman Being less densely populated helped a bit too, I think. But we do seem to have handled it pretty well. Even Victoria, after the initial hiccup with the isolation hotels, got their act together and got the numbers down to zero. Just hope there's not another wave.

Hopefully, @Bushranger.

@bijouxbroussard
[quote]Focusing on “who’s to blame” is a moot point and colossal waste of time.[/quote]
totally agree

The only good to come out of that maybe if we could be certain lessons learnt would mean we're not here again in 10 years with a new flu strain or similar

@SW-User It will also be interesting to see if people follow some of the Covid practices (social distancing, hand hygiene, masks etc) during the next flu season. We might, hopefully, have less infection and deaths in the future.

@Bushranger frankly sadly I doubt it I see a large amount of ignoring the basics here. And everyone wants it to go "back to normal"... It can't we now live in a world with Covid-19 it isn't going to go away. We might better cope with vaccines etc but if we are to eliminate it from the planet that will take probably my kids lifetime let alone mine and that's probably optimistic.

@SW-User There's a chance that it will end up similar to the flu, something that can be partially controlled with a vaccine but still fatal to a percentage of the population. I, sadly, think this is our best hope.

@Bushranger totally is where we are at the moment. Be interesting to see if in 5 years the comparison of excess deaths per year per capita on average has risen.

Obviously this year its massive (UK 70,000+ and rising) but we need to freeze excess death 5 Yr figures to 2019 then compare with 2021 - 2026 average after vaccines are introduced. Then you'll see the long term cost. But cost there will always be.

@SW-User I suppose the numbers will depend on the infectiousness of the virus. If it mutates into a less virile version, things won't be too bad. The co-morbidity of Covid and flu might confuse the data a bit too. But I think there will be an increase in annual death rates.