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USAalltheway · 31-35, M
Single payer? That's only good for liberals. They're the ones who don't want to work hard enough to afford healthcare.
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USAalltheway · 31-35, M
That's just what the mainstream media wants you to believe.
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
USAalltheway · 31-35, M
But they are run by liberals.
Northwest · M
The ACA was meant to evolve, otherwise it will collapse.
Yes, to a single payer system. It's the only thing that makes sense logically, but it's not something the insurance industry lobby, that spent handsomely on pushing pro Trump candidates, will go for.
Even Obama, when pushed for answers, after Hillary lost, had to admit that it would have been impossible to pass a single payer system, on the first try, without first preparing the insurance industry for job losses.
I like what John McCain said today, prior to casting his vote. Trump is not going to like what he said, but he tweeted that McCain is a hero (as opposed to all his tweets about McCain not being a real hero for getting captured), but I doubt that he heard his speech.
Yes, to a single payer system. It's the only thing that makes sense logically, but it's not something the insurance industry lobby, that spent handsomely on pushing pro Trump candidates, will go for.
Even Obama, when pushed for answers, after Hillary lost, had to admit that it would have been impossible to pass a single payer system, on the first try, without first preparing the insurance industry for job losses.
I like what John McCain said today, prior to casting his vote. Trump is not going to like what he said, but he tweeted that McCain is a hero (as opposed to all his tweets about McCain not being a real hero for getting captured), but I doubt that he heard his speech.
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
@Northwest
Agreed. When I read that McCain was headed straight back to AZ for treatment my first thought was whether he would ever see D.C. alive again.
The insurance lobby has paid both sides handsomely. It will take courageous men and women to enact single payer.
Agreed. When I read that McCain was headed straight back to AZ for treatment my first thought was whether he would ever see D.C. alive again.
The insurance lobby has paid both sides handsomely. It will take courageous men and women to enact single payer.
Northwest · M
@jackjjackson It would also take people to stop labeling it communism, liberalism or socialism. Look at some of the responses to your thread. This is what the insurance industry wants, to keep us divided, fighting over semantics.
Properly managed, it would remove 3-4 layers of unnecessary paperwork and costs, as well as finally provide good coverage, where people do not have to compromise. It would also force a stabilization of rising medical expenses.
It does not really help me to have the world's best medical system, if 90% of the people cannot afford to use it.
Properly managed, it would remove 3-4 layers of unnecessary paperwork and costs, as well as finally provide good coverage, where people do not have to compromise. It would also force a stabilization of rising medical expenses.
It does not really help me to have the world's best medical system, if 90% of the people cannot afford to use it.
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
@Northwest
More good point. I wonder if the labelers would "put their money where their mouth is" and waive Medicare and Social Security lol? When I have around 45, I would have willingly waived Social Security, let me keep my contribution to that point and happily continued to fund a 401K (with no or very high limits).
More good point. I wonder if the labelers would "put their money where their mouth is" and waive Medicare and Social Security lol? When I have around 45, I would have willingly waived Social Security, let me keep my contribution to that point and happily continued to fund a 401K (with no or very high limits).
golemn9 · 26-30, M
Yes! Always trust corporations with your life!! Zero regulations!!! Corporations will never betray you for profit!! #MAGA #TRUMP #EMAILS
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
Picklebobble2 · 56-60, M
You'll always get somebody ripping you off if you continue with so many insurers. how is it these companies aren't eating each other if the market is competitive ??
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
@Picklebobble2 darned good question. The not crossing states lines for one thing I suppose ......
Picklebobble2 · 56-60, M
@jackjjackson It's never going to work is it. So frustrating sitting and watching this !
I mean it's clear that the ONLY way healthcare will EVER be in ANY way fair is if (god forbid) the government actually starts a National Insurance scheme based on ability to pay.
I mean it's clear that the ONLY way healthcare will EVER be in ANY way fair is if (god forbid) the government actually starts a National Insurance scheme based on ability to pay.
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
@Picklebobble2
It's interesting and sad that let's say France which many people mock (sometimes even me in jest of course) truly has better health care than the United States.
It's interesting and sad that let's say France which many people mock (sometimes even me in jest of course) truly has better health care than the United States.