I Love Fashion

This is true. The one I have is shorter. I like the modesty I get wearing it hiking. But it does seem to be more a fashion statement then a necessity other then modesty. I have a light Lycra skort that I wear over capris on summer hikes that's comfy because it moves better

@JoanieNewHampshire: How come you just agree with this girl? She basically said the same thing ;)

@mar3sword:

"Life is filled with many contradictions!"

😜I'll try to explain:
First you're a guy commenting on a skirt, so unless you are complimenting me or you wear or are wanting to try one, that discredits your opinion. Modesty can be a matter of practical concern, something you as a male not be familiar with.

Your first comment - "Looks impractical to be honest". Yes, to you perhaps but, I'm not always a practicle person. So I choose to give you my "rationel".

Now if you read in the body of the question, I specifically was asking the opinion of girly girls/gurls. Are you one? Not that discredits you from stating your opinion. But please don't expect me to yield to a man telling me something I want desire and enjoy is going to enamor me to your thought process.

If you notice too, she didn't try to argue after I made my points known to her. She pointed out her opinion, I expressed my reasons. We moved on.

You've been attempting (in male fashion, *BAM ) to discredit any value I have given to the look, joy and feel of wearing this skirt hiking, simply based on your opinion. If your opinion Is that you don't think it practical, then don't wear a skirt hiking!

So because you continue to attempt to one up me, I can assume a couple of things, you're OCD, you're pragmatic, you might be a little narsisistic, you're like me in that you LOVE to argue!

BTW; as mentioned earlier to you, many male AT through hikers have taken to wearing skirts for the freedom of movement and airy nature. That was their justifiable practicality.

@JoanieNewHampshire: it is CDO thank you very much. Okay, so the things you said about me are likely true. As we are continuing this discussion they are probably true about you too... ;)

I do like to debate, however I would hope that when logic wins over my arguments I have the good grace to admit so.

When? @mar3sword:

I admitted to liking discussions first thusly it's no fault of mine that we continue this banter, as for logic. That's great for designing homes and highways. But when it comes to fashion, the most logical of adornment doesn't satisfy the desire to express ones individuality. Some people have only logical minds, some people only have emotional minds and most people have some of each. It's designed that way so people can survive and not be bored to death.

Absolutes will always be divided by relativity.

@JoanieNewHampshire: Only sometimes, there are some scientific absolutes. Laws of physics and math. But yes, in the sense of fassion I would have to say that I agree with you, it certainly isn't logical. In which case it is unlikely that I will be won over. ;) Enjoy your skirt. I will enjoy my pants. As far as fassion the most fashionable I get is trimming my beard and wearing a v-neck long sleeve and nice jeans with comfortable classy boots.

Why would anyone wear a beard! It's so impractical, itches, collects crumbs and basicly can look so unkept. 😜
Absolutes do exist in some sciences, fashion is a science with relatively no absolutes. Now implying logic and fashion. Unless you're wearing it to protect, stay warm, dry or cool what ever you have on, could be seen as illogical.😊 @mar3sword:

@JoanieNewHampshire: Can look unkept, can being the operating word. I have worn a beard a lot, I quite like having a beard. I keep it kept. It isn't actually impractical, it keeps my face warm. It is easier than shaving (and cheaper). I like the way it looks. My beard doesn't collect crumbs as I am a careful and hygienic person.

Fashion is not a science, I am sorry...

Now I do not think that practicality should always rule. And I will definately admit that, while I don't really wear anything unpractical, a lot of people do for the pleasure or to look good. And I have no problem with that, what makes them happy and feel good about themselves. My mistake was assuming that practicality would be the first concern while hiking or trekking as it is in my experience. I am an endurance athlete, so nothing that isn't practical is going to be brought along when I have to haul it all over a long distance.

You can keep your beard, you can run as efficient as you find practicle. Fashion may not be an exact science, and certainly has no absolutes. But, the mere fact that it is important in practicle and non practicle ways and has been studied and expressed through out history to define cultures and civilizations it has a notable science aspect of it. But you can not say that someone's joy is not valid end because of your opinion of what is and what is not practicle for others. I find hiking in just leggings comfortable, but. Don't find it modest and age appropriate for "me" and thus it is my practicality that creates my desire. @mar3sword:

@JoanieNewHampshire: I never said anyone's joy was not valid. Nor did I ever say that it wouldn't look good or be a bad idea if your goal was to look good.

Please, wear your skirt and enjoy it.

Fashion is not a science it is an art, and therefore subjective and not measurable. Sciences are based on measurable facts and experimentally testable theories.

And art is a science! 😛 You can measure it, you can experiment with it, you can even test out your theories with it!

You know what my conversation has been all about here don't you? It's about the "fact" that you "measure" everything against your expected result, of your own research without the probability of another's theory! 😜 And I take pleasure and joy in making contradictions to it! 😂😂😂 yours would be considered a bad science.

Have you ever baked a cake? Science.
Have you ever measured a model? Science
Have you ever mixed paint from its elements? Science

Even the mind and it's creativity is based in some science.

@JoanieNewHampshire: Are you not also measuring things against your preconceived notions and ideas? I do consider each argument and theory. I form a hypothesis and then test it with the facts and knowledge I have. I then test it against my peers, evolving the hypothesis with new information, if proved wrong I will discard it and start over. That is good science.

There is certainly science to paint mixing and baking, both of those are actually the results of chemistry. The art itself, the painting, the sculpture are not sciences. I can explain with science the way the materials of the art are made, but not how they align to produce beauty. I have actually baked cake and mixed paint. I don't hate art, I do say it is not measurable. In the same way we cannot quantify hope, fear, or love.

As to the measuring of a model, that would imply that the model's measurements define their beauty. Which would be a falsehood, widely debated.

@mar3sword: to many, much of life is debatable. That's why I simply look at life and accept what I see. And question those who see only the tangible and speak of it as if it were absolute! It is not as far as I can see! And as far as I can see!
Of course I see things with my eyes. I can also see what you wish me to see. And if agree I will say so, I don't. Consensus is a tool used by those who need validation, consensus in many cases though out herstory/history has been defeated by experience.

@JoanieNewHampshire: Not everything we see should be accepted, some should be changed, some should be challenged. Not everything that we see is as it appears, not everything should be taken at face value.

Talking about face value, I know there are a lot of things you don't take a face value, at how it appears to be.

Consensus is not always desired by people that need validation. Some people want consensus so that goals can be met. Some people want others to agree simply because they care about the other person and believe them to be wrong and don't want them to continue to believe a lie.

@mar3sword: your a lot like me! You think you have the answer to everything. Unlike me, I believe the right answers will always emerge from the dust of disagreement.
Generally speaking anything and everything should be accepted tolerated and even promoted if I has no ill effect on another's life, liberty or pursuit of happiness. You have rules, I have responsibilities. Responsibility always trumps rules. But you probably won't accept that because you have far to many rules.

Consensus and validation are not antonyms.

People should keep their noses out of other people's business if they haven't been asked@mar3sword: