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Imagine you lived as a Southerner in mid-1800s America. Would you be opposed to slavery or would you support it?

Keep in mind that it is the cultural norm of the time. Speaking out against it would probably have people resent you as much as people resent vegans these days.

Do you put your image on the line by defending the the voiceless, or do you just go along with the status quo because everyone else is fine with it?
SteelHands · 61-69, M
Lets get something sensible said here since ignorance seems to rule this subject.

1. The majority of whites living in the south before slaves were being brought in in large numbers were likely working for those same plantation owners and lost at least began seeing their wages go through the floor and even lost their jobs and had to pull up stakes and find work somewhere else.

2. The few whites that had low enough expenses to stay were likely single males with a stomach for abusing the living. Probably sadistic scum that no southern woman wanted to marry.

3. I hadn't been the cultural "norm" for the non wealthy in the European lands where they came to the new world seeking freedom from religious oppression so I really doubt that the majority of the masses were the ones who decided that since there was no established code forbidding such then why not?

4. Only the super rich could afford to sail ships back and forth across the Atlantic.

5. The common class majority wage earners are unsupportive of cheap labor through illegal hiring now. Doesn't it make infinite sense they would be even more opposed to free labor through kidnapping humans from another country?

This isn't even a well considered reply. I think it makes the point tho.
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@Noahkahol: Good points, although I specified a particular region and time to fully embrace the focus on black slavery.

I think the common class would also benefit from the cheap/free labor, considering that textiles is a huge industry related to cotton farming. You could also consider that plantation owners would sell their goods elsewhere and bring money into their region. That could allow them to buy more farming equipment or clothes or any conceivable number of goods. The slaves didn't necessarily need to compete with them for jobs.
I would have been entirely opposed to it.
I don't think I would have been very vocal about it, but I would have found quiet ways to show my support for those who needed it just like I do now. Or who knows, maybe I would grow up out of my own hypocrisy, fear and cowardice and really be there for the oppressed as much as a woman of the 1800's could have been.
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@AmbivalentFriability It's scary to consider that there wasn't an internet or much in the way of anonymity in those days. If we wanted to speak out on something, that would impact our reputation directly. We could potentially, sometimes even likely, lose the support of our families and friends if we did break our silences.

I think I would have had to start small. Maybe convincing one person, then another about the reasons for my opposition. And maybe that would all blow up in my face. Doing the right thing is not often convenient. You have to have quite a bit of resolve to stick to your guns. It's hard to say how many of us would in the face of such a ubiquitous zeitgeist
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SteelHands · 61-69, M
@LesDeplorable: The depths of the depravity of the landed ones are still the same. Both the Blacks who got rich in Africa selling their own, the whites who bought and sold humans.

Both of that wealthy class know who they are. And they point accusing fingers at the innocent ordinary ones. They encourage division, start wars they do not fight and profit from them. Between black, white, yellow, red and STILL profit on the hatred they cause. All while sitting pretty in the best schools, living in the best homes, and seated in the most powerful chairs.

And sit on their hands silently as they spread their own brand of loss of life and horror. All while calling themselves, us.
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Newandimproved · 61-69, M
that's an interesting question. since most people thought it was okay - and even the preachers told people from the pulpit that it was god's will - where would the idea that it was wrong come from?

literacy wasn't that strong

there wasn't mass media
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@bijouxbroussard: The point he's making is that beliefs like those in the Jim Crow era tend to reinforce the positions people already had regarding segregation. It's not setting them in stone, but providing axioms for people to avoid critical thinking
Newandimproved · 61-69, M
@bijouxbroussard: scary isn't it?
you go to school and you get the briefest of history lessons about slavery and the civil rights movments in the, what 40s? is that the beginnings up through the 50s and 60s - reading about the things that happened in Mississippi even in the 50s to try quiet the movement shocked me. and it was done with governmental backing.
@Newandimproved: Yes, exactly.
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Why makes you think it should be "obvious" to any of us? A lot of white people opposed it. Hence the civil war? @GypsyKing:
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i think racism and the notion of racial inferiority is taught by your upbringing....im guessing the majority of people in the south went along with slavery without blinking an eye. me personally, i dont think id have the liberty to really have an opinion on slavery anyways in the 1800s. id most likely be sent off to build railroads or get deported back to asia somewhere
sighmeupforthat · 46-50, M
keep in mind things are further separated from that time now.... i have no clue all i know is i'm decedent of slaves and they're still here today and always will be.

long as i got work and a GOOD 'home'.
firefall · 61-69, M
I've never had a problem with fighting social norms, it more or less defines a lot of mycharacter. But I'm pretty sure I'd move north, rather than martyr myself or go along with it
It was the cultural norm, and I'm a southerner in a southern family. I'm sure I would have accepted it, while being "simply appalled at the cruelty of some plantation men."
greenmountaingal · 70-79, F
Most southerners were not slave owners. I don't think I would've been supportive of such an evil institution. But I might have had to move away and join some kind of Quaker community.
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categorically opposed, 100%. i would expect to be treated harshly for my stance, and possibly even killed. i know myself. i would not bend to the 'social norm'.
Fernie · F
I'm sure I would have been as militant as I am now when it comes to injustice
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If I were white I'd know that I wouldn't want to be a slave, nor would I want that for any of my loved ones. But it would depend whether or not I had been raised to accept the racist beliefs of the majority, that whites were superior and deserved to subjugate all people of color.
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It's hard to say. I'd love to say that I would definitely oppose it but, if I had been brought up by people who taught that me it was good and right, who knows?

 
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