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Northwest · M
@aldnazmeister: I am either hallucinating, or the graph you presented, says, on the bottom: Department of Homeland Security Yearbook Immigration Statistics.
Didn't you post that slide? Again, here's what I said "I copied it from the graph that you posted." and that's exactly what I did. I copied it into my Chrome browser, and Googled linked me to the actual URI, which I shortened using bit.ly
Sure you're allowed. I was just asking a question. Are yous saying that I have an agenda behind my question? Just like you, I am allowed to ask a question, without anyone assuming anything.
It's interesting that you see comments as attacks, but that would explain a lot, wouldn't it?
Didn't you post that slide? Again, here's what I said "I copied it from the graph that you posted." and that's exactly what I did. I copied it into my Chrome browser, and Googled linked me to the actual URI, which I shortened using bit.ly
Hmm, so I am not allowed to post a story, without reason other than I want to; I have to have an agenda or purpose other than posting?
Sure you're allowed. I was just asking a question. Are yous saying that I have an agenda behind my question? Just like you, I am allowed to ask a question, without anyone assuming anything.
So does that mean you are yet attacking someone on the simple principle of freedom of speech?
It's interesting that you see comments as attacks, but that would explain a lot, wouldn't it?
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aldnazmeister · 56-60, M
@Northwest: 👏
Oh no my debating person, you are the one that needs stuff justified; so I have a right to refute anything that you say.
Oh no my debating person, you are the one that needs stuff justified; so I have a right to refute anything that you say.
Northwest · M
@aldnazmeister: As do I. I however never refute facts.
aldnazmeister · 56-60, M
@Northwest: 👏👍🏼
Northwest · M
1. The US revises the number of immigrants allowed every year, to insure, as a country of immigrants, we remain a melting pot.
If you look at the actual records from DHS, you will find that we had about 7M immigrants during the Obama years, depicted in the graph you included in your post. Out of 7M, you have 832,000 who came from Muslim majority countries.
Muslim majority does not mean all Muslim. Countries like Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, Iraq and Morocco, have a mix of Muslim/Christian/Jewish. However, setting that aside, 832,000, represents less than 12%, where if you were to project it to the actual world population, it should be 1.9M
2. The Syrian refugees are dealt with, using a different calculus. The 10K deal, was part of a deal struck, in conjunction with other Western nations. It did NOT follow standard immigration channels, and the Obama administration had trouble fulfilling, due to lack of resources, and the desire to insure proper vetting.
For historical comparison purposes, we admitted 800,000 Vietnamese, during the waning days of the Vietnam war. We did not vet any of them, and had no idea how many of them, prescribed to an ideology, that allowed suicide attacks, to defeat us. The legacy of that mass migration is mostly good, with the criminal element going into organized crime.
Also, for historical comparison purposes, about 1.2M people from Muslim-majority countries, were admitted to the US, during the Bush regime.
Let's stick to comparing apples to oranges.
If you look at the actual records from DHS, you will find that we had about 7M immigrants during the Obama years, depicted in the graph you included in your post. Out of 7M, you have 832,000 who came from Muslim majority countries.
Muslim majority does not mean all Muslim. Countries like Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, Iraq and Morocco, have a mix of Muslim/Christian/Jewish. However, setting that aside, 832,000, represents less than 12%, where if you were to project it to the actual world population, it should be 1.9M
2. The Syrian refugees are dealt with, using a different calculus. The 10K deal, was part of a deal struck, in conjunction with other Western nations. It did NOT follow standard immigration channels, and the Obama administration had trouble fulfilling, due to lack of resources, and the desire to insure proper vetting.
For historical comparison purposes, we admitted 800,000 Vietnamese, during the waning days of the Vietnam war. We did not vet any of them, and had no idea how many of them, prescribed to an ideology, that allowed suicide attacks, to defeat us. The legacy of that mass migration is mostly good, with the criminal element going into organized crime.
Also, for historical comparison purposes, about 1.2M people from Muslim-majority countries, were admitted to the US, during the Bush regime.
Let's stick to comparing apples to oranges.
aldnazmeister · 56-60, M
@Northwest: I only suggest posting a link to support any argument or point that goes against a posters original post or counterpoints, be it me or any other contributor. After all, anyone could go around saying someone else's stories, posts, and/or comments are wrong if they did not have to support their stance.
Thank you for the link to Immigration Statistics book showing the historical numbers. Fyi, my link does not go directly to this book, but someone certainly could get there through some effort.
I am not concerned with deleting your comments, as you have a right to them. My point was that they did not directly correlate to my story, but they do provide some interesting reading for those that may choose to do so.
Thank you for the link to Immigration Statistics book showing the historical numbers. Fyi, my link does not go directly to this book, but someone certainly could get there through some effort.
I am not concerned with deleting your comments, as you have a right to them. My point was that they did not directly correlate to my story, but they do provide some interesting reading for those that may choose to do so.
Northwest · M
@aldnazmeister: Like I said, I did not come up with the link, I copied it from the graph that you posted. So, then you intended to post a completely orphan story, pointing to the number of people admitted from Muslim countries, for absolutely no other reason?
aldnazmeister · 56-60, M
@Northwest: I will admit that I am not seeing any link in the graph that I posted. I posted a picture that I found. I move my mouse all around that picture, and get no link. The one link that I have in the story takes me to a story about what I posted. I was able to work my way to the statistics book.
Hmm, so I am not allowed to post a story, without reason other than I want to; I have to have an agenda or purpose other than posting?
So does that mean you are yet attacking someone on the simple principle of freedom of speech?
Hmm, so I am not allowed to post a story, without reason other than I want to; I have to have an agenda or purpose other than posting?
So does that mean you are yet attacking someone on the simple principle of freedom of speech?
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