Is science the only form of knowledge
To me the answer seems obvious but what do you think?
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Science isn't knowledge. It is a method of gaining knowledge and it is only as good as we humans can make it. We humans are prone to error and thus we can not rely on science. The number of scientific facts that have since been scientifically disproven in my life time is staggering. Of course many of the scientific facts that replaced the prior scientific facts have also been disproven. Thus science is fun and even useful but it is not the only source of knowledge.
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hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@CopperCicada As my old seminary prof told me. Your god is what you base your world view upon. If science then science. If Christianity then Yahweh. The only difference is who has the power to inflict their god on another.
CopperCicada · M
@hippyjoe1955 i am just calling out your broad generalization. if all scientists are sycophants to the god of science, then so is the mentor i just mentioned.
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@CopperCicada Give it a rest. There was no broad statement aimed at any one. Rather it was an acknowledgement that science is no different than any other human endeavour and power is too often the end game.
CopperCicada · M
Science is just a method.
One needs to be able to make observations, construct a hypothesis, and test it to create a theory that hopefully has some predictive power.
Works well with nature. And stuff. Things
Would you use that method to write a poem? to decide if you love somebody? to make love? to appreciate music, art? to frame peak experienced from spirituity, deep solitary submersion in nature?
Prolly not.
One needs to be able to make observations, construct a hypothesis, and test it to create a theory that hopefully has some predictive power.
Works well with nature. And stuff. Things
Would you use that method to write a poem? to decide if you love somebody? to make love? to appreciate music, art? to frame peak experienced from spirituity, deep solitary submersion in nature?
Prolly not.
CopperCicada · M
@Axeroberts i've done science professionally for 20 years. i don't know a single reasonably trained scientist who would suggest science is the only source of knowledge. and i don't know any good scientist who wouldn't have an appreciation of the philosophical limits of scientific method.
Axeroberts · 56-60, M
@CopperCicada but not everyone is a scientist. 😆
CopperCicada · M
@Axeroberts in my opinion-- in science education, the single most important thing to teach... is what the scope and limitations of science are. that can be understood by anyone.
Axeroberts · 56-60, M
@SpaceAce and science is limited in what it can observe
SpaceAce · 31-35, M
@Axeroberts Humans are limited in what they can observe science is limited by our limitations.
Axeroberts · 56-60, M
@SpaceAce right
Axeroberts · 56-60, M
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@Axeroberts I think of a bigger Science that is just the way things are, which would be regular science when the right time comes, ... just a silly little thought though.
msros · F
Can science explain what happens to people after they die? I dont think so.
xSharp · 31-35, M
@Axeroberts but what they do know is that without brain activity the mind is unresponsive, all these stories about hearts stopping and people going to heaven? hearts stop all the time with people still conscious while their brains make up fantastic hallucinations, how about when brains stop while the body is still alive? why dont they get up and tell us about the afterlife they witnessed? its cuz they cant, they are brain dead and cannot witness anything.
Axeroberts · 56-60, M
@xSharp but these case are speculation and not a controlled group as would be needed to be considered science
xSharp · 31-35, M
@Axeroberts exactly, which cases? the ones where ppl claimed to see heaven? yes these are controlled groups and are zero percent scientific.,
Magenta · F
Science only discovers what already exists and seeks to explain it, in it's own biased narrow view. That's all. And yet still, ever seeking and ever learning but never coming to true knowledge, imo.
Socialclutz · 36-40, M
Axeroberts · 56-60, M
@Socialclutz excellent
SummerDream · 31-35, F
its the only way to obtain knowledge... there is no "science" only a scientific method.
whateverhappens · 26-30, F
looking around my room, yes it appears that way
Axeroberts · 56-60, M
@whateverhappens maybe it's your room. Lol
lorne13 · 61-69, M
everything can be a science, yes
Axeroberts · 56-60, M
@lorne13 like a gut feeling?
lorne13 · 61-69, M
@Axeroberts yes, it would be possible to gather info on when and under what conditions people have these feelings, whether they were accurate or not, where in the brain they might originate, a lot of things but personally I suspect it would be very expensive and probably not worth while