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Can we agree on a few things?

1. You cant make people think when they dont wish to.
2. You cant make people see something they dont want to.
3. You cant make people believe something they dont want to.

So, it doesnt matter to the Trump supporter that Trump said or did the most despicable things or has no dignity, morals, ethics or intelligence. Hes a Trump supporter.
It doesnt matter to the climate denier that the sea levels are rising, weather is changing and water tables are being tainted. It is either not happening or nothing can be done. He just doesnt see any reason for stop driving that SUV.
And if doesnt matter to the Creationist that there is a fossil record and that science is pushing religion back into a smaller corner every day. He has Faith because god said and wrote it down and he believes.

I will miss America when its gone. But maybe if they get enough hard working migrants come in, something may yet be saved. Just dont expect any help from the locals who dont need to see, or think.
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Wow. How delusional can you be.

Yes, facts seem not to matter to President Trump's haters... or to the believers of Evolution who claim it's supported by science.

President Trump is literally not guilty of most of what he's accused of. Of what he is guilty of, in the past, it's quite a bit - but he's forgiven because he became a Christian a while ago. And... more importantly, his actions and his policies prove that it's a real conversion. Oh yeah, one more thing - President Trump's policies are strengthening America, at home, in the economy, in people's employment, in trade policies, and overseas in foreign relations and defense. Not incidentally, the rest of the free world is benefitting as well.
... not surprisingly, his haters are not into facts, just whatever narrative supports their preferred beliefs.

As for the other point. Yes, the fossil record. Yes, scientifically speaking it does not support the concept that any species ever evolved into anything else (another species), nor does abiogenesis appear to show how life came from nothing. But hey, as long as the evolutionist repeats "it's science" he or she doesn't need for the facts, or scientific method for that matter - to support their preconceived notion. So the Creationist is correct. Of course, we might define "creationist" differently - since the nonbelieving community uses a ridiculous caricature of the creationists. Not surprising considering the source. The Creationist is correct in the basics- God created life, God created Man, and God is in charge of his creation.

Climate denier? You mean those that say the sea levels are rising, when they are not. Like literally dude, the sea level is constantly measured, and it's not rising. Not. How delusional do you have to be to deny the measurements. Come to think of it - actual measurements, not the derivatives coming from the climate activists (otherwise known as dishonest), actual measurements show a steady climate increase of about 0.3 Celsius per century for several centuries now. Probably part of the cycle. Nothing to freak out about. But you go ahead, give up your SUV, and deny facts and reason all you want.

That's three strikes man. You're out - as a person of reason.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@SW-User https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-07-21/kiribati-hopefull-in-face-of-climate-change-rising-sea-levels/11228658
As for the rest. I got the fossil record. Show me God.
And if you cant see the harm Trump is doing to your country, you are blind and stupid. But I think you can. You are just here for the argument.
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@whowasthatmaskedman It's you who are in denial if you don't realize in how many ways President Trump's policies are benefitting America (and frankly the free world). Personally I think you do know, but you prefer the leftist narrative. On other posts I've made fairly long lists of what they are - and I gave a few earlier. Here's a few more - strengthened NATO, rebuilding our nuclear deterrent, massively improving our trade posture with any number of countries, and oh yeah, did I mention what is essentially full employment along with the first real wage growth in years. Oh yeah, liberals don't like it cause that doesn't leave the people dependent-- on them.

No, you don't get the fossil record. Your statement shows that. The fossil record clearly shows many many species throughout time, showing up, and not once does it lead to a species evolving into something else. Not once in the record. Oh yeah, biochemistry hasn't show that that's possible either. So, the fossil record. I get it, and you apparently don't.

God. You do know why He removed himself from the human presence right? Or are you ignorant in that as well. The whole fall of man in sin thing. Yeah. But it's what's happened since that is wonderful. Human history - as the record of man being redeemed back to God. He raises people and nations. The resurrection - remember that - it's historical record is as strong as any ancient event - it's just that you don't believe it. Your bad. Oh, and miracles... still ongoing in so many ways - especially medical ones, not to mention the main evidence of all, the changing of hearts in christians (and even non-christians, occasionally). But I forget - you don't do evidence do you?

The ABC article. Yeah, that's a false story. The climate alarmists think that the important statistic is to keep repeating false stories - as if they're any more true. ABC is a biased network (don't worry, we have plenty of them in the states as well, but thankfully they're being called on the carpet by a fed up public).

Whew. Pitching softballs are yah? Well... if I don't respond, I may have to go do something else. This is fun, but only a little fun...
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@SW-User Thank you for making my points, so much better than I could.
JaggedLittlePill · 46-50, F
@SW-User I stole this! Thanks ! ;)
SW-User
That’s fine. It’s not like I wrote it. 😉 @JaggedLittlePill
JaggedLittlePill · 46-50, F
@SW-User LOL...I used it immediately, I felt I needed to give credit!
SmartKat · 56-60, F
I stopped arguing with Trump supporters a long time ago. I no longer care why they believe what they believe. I just want them to leave me alone.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@SmartKat I totally understand. I just like to keep it up till they leave ME alone.😉
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That’s a logical conclusion to reach. It’s like trying to pour water through a solid chunk of rock. @SmartKat
JaggedLittlePill · 46-50, F
You cannot change the minds of those who wish to remain blind and deaf.

You cannot change the hearts of those who have no empathy or sympathy.


Selfish and ignorant people will remain so as long as there are people in high places that validate them.
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You can’t fix stupid, I won’t be retiring here.
HypnoChode · 46-50, M
Best post ever. Thank you for this.
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whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@EBuck I am not a believer myself. But thank you. I will take all the help I can get.😉
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@whowasthatmaskedman Good that you take it... cause man do you need the help.
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But I guess you did prove the top three points though. It's just that you didn't realize that you were its primary example. Oh well... it's laughable and sad.
eli1601 · 70-79, M
😂 You're still my favorite 👍️

 
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