Shouldn't boys be allowed to be boys?
I think so, which is why the new Gillett advert is quite disturbing:
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Lukefromms · M
Yea as a young man it's scrary how liberal culture is so anti male..happy to chat
LeopoldBloom · M
@Lukefromms Poor you - women are so scary.
MrSimons · 41-45, M
@LeopoldBloom Aggressive, modern day feminism is somewhat worrying, not women in general.
I am not really sure why you're replying to someone who has deleted their account.
I am not really sure why you're replying to someone who has deleted their account.
LeopoldBloom · M
@MrSimons Who cares if his account is deleted, you responded.
The loss of special privileges can feel like oppression, which is why small, scared men are threatened by equality.
The loss of special privileges can feel like oppression, which is why small, scared men are threatened by equality.
MrSimons · 41-45, M
@LeopoldBloom Special privileges?
LeopoldBloom · M
@MrSimons Have you noticed that men hold the vast majority of leadership positions in government, business, entertainment, science, academe, religion, and every other aspect of society? And you're going to tell me men are oppressed? You're full of shit.
MrSimons · 41-45, M
@LeopoldBloom What about teaching, particularly primary school? As a teacher/teaching assistant I have often been the only man in the staff room. Nursing is also female dominated, as is social work and (I was surprised to find) veterinarians. A lot of the professions you listed are partly dominated by men because they appeal to men more than women. I say partially, because no one can deny that there was discrimination in the past.
In any case, the way to address any inequality is to make sure we have a level playing field. We should make it so that discrimination on the grounds of gender (or any other irrelevant characteristic) is absolutely not allowed. The person who gets the job is the one who is the strongest candidate, whether they are a man, woman, black, white, gay, straight or whatever. What we should not do is start discriminating against people because in the past people like them may have had an advantage, as though we are playing some kind of tit for tat game.
In any case, the way to address any inequality is to make sure we have a level playing field. We should make it so that discrimination on the grounds of gender (or any other irrelevant characteristic) is absolutely not allowed. The person who gets the job is the one who is the strongest candidate, whether they are a man, woman, black, white, gay, straight or whatever. What we should not do is start discriminating against people because in the past people like them may have had an advantage, as though we are playing some kind of tit for tat game.
LeopoldBloom · M
@MrSimons Yes, traditionally, women have taken the crappiest jobs, and that has not changed. Do you seriously think the Senate is equivalent to elementary school? I'm not talking about specific professions, I'm talking about business in general.
One way to address inequality would be the Equal Rights Amendment, which would apply to men as well as women, but for some reason, the Men's Rights Activists don't support it - because, as I said, equality is perceived as oppression.
One way to address inequality would be the Equal Rights Amendment, which would apply to men as well as women, but for some reason, the Men's Rights Activists don't support it - because, as I said, equality is perceived as oppression.
MrSimons · 41-45, M
@LeopoldBloom I think part of the difference is that certain types of jobs appeal to men more than woman and vice versa, and I find it a little surprising that you are saying that jobs like teaching, nursing, social work or being a vet are, "crappy." I am not denying that women have been discriminated against in the past. I just don't think it is a problem now, or at least not nearly as much of a problem as some are making out.
I don't know the details of the Act you are referring to, but I would be in favour of any law which puts us all on an equal footing. Feminism (from what I have seen) doesn't seem to want to bring that about. They want the playing field tilted in their favour, saying that it will address the imbalance. Like I said before, we don't right the injustice by playing tit for tat where we disadvantage people who are seen as having an advantage before. I am not really in favour of Men's Rights Activists either. They seem to me to be the male equivalent of modern feminists. They are focused on one gender when we should be working to ensure that everyone is treated equally and fairly.
I don't know the details of the Act you are referring to, but I would be in favour of any law which puts us all on an equal footing. Feminism (from what I have seen) doesn't seem to want to bring that about. They want the playing field tilted in their favour, saying that it will address the imbalance. Like I said before, we don't right the injustice by playing tit for tat where we disadvantage people who are seen as having an advantage before. I am not really in favour of Men's Rights Activists either. They seem to me to be the male equivalent of modern feminists. They are focused on one gender when we should be working to ensure that everyone is treated equally and fairly.
LeopoldBloom · M
@MrSimons Certain types of jobs appeal to men? You mean like CEOs and senators? Yeah, I have to agree with you there. Fortunately, that is changing.
The Equal Rights Amendment was opposed by conservative religious bigots who were afraid that it would allow gay people to marry each other. Well, that's legal now, and society hasn't collapsed, so maybe we can finally pass it and move on.
The Equal Rights Amendment was opposed by conservative religious bigots who were afraid that it would allow gay people to marry each other. Well, that's legal now, and society hasn't collapsed, so maybe we can finally pass it and move on.