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christians does joel osteen embarrass you?

he is so embarrassing to me as a Christian the way he pushes "sow the seed" as if giving money to the church is going to grant you salvation.

this is exactly why the perception of Christianity is so warped by nonbelivers and they explain it's nothing but a money service. which it can be but the point of reventating money is to pay the churches bills and to be able to afford to go on mission trips to haiti or third world countries to help and send supplies. you aren't obligated to pay anything. if you dont have it you dont have it. if you dont want to pay you dont have to. there are no repercussions. joel osteen makes it seem like you have to pay in order to plant your seed to reap your rewards. since when does money equate to salvation or even happiness or fufilment?

joel osteen is an antichrist it is easier for a camel to make it into the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of heaven. joel wouldn't know this either because everything he stands for is EVIL
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DeluxedEdition · 26-30, F
@TheLastWord i swear i had a feeling he wasn't even a christian why would a christian exploit these issues????????????? thanks for sharing

Keepitsimple · 51-55, F
That’s the dude who wouldn’t let people stay in the church after the hurricane while he was comfy in his million dollar home and squints like an idiot?
SW-User
I don't know much about him, but I'm not a fan of "prosperity gospel" preachers like him. The idea that somehow wealth is a sign of being more blessed seems manipulative and exploitative. I'm a Catholic and I have participated in mission trips funded by donations, but it was not coerced. This kind of thing reminds me of the pre-Reformation Church that was basically selling forgiveness of sins. It's a slippery slope.
DeluxedEdition · 26-30, F
@SW-User he is CRINGY and you nailed it. just a prosperity gospel preacher.
SW-User
He's got his eye on a new Gulfstream six..
65 million dollars. His flock needs to pitch in. 😤
MarineBob · 56-60, M
He's upset because his church must turn their records over to the IRS... Sorry he took a government handout
DeluxedEdition · 26-30, F
@MarineBob you cannot be serious
Crazywaterspring · 61-69, M
Plenty of TV preachers do that.

The huge majority of churches are just like the lottery in selling dreams. Money for the preacher goes for planes, property and paying lawyers to keep the IRS away. Lottery money goes for government stuff like roads, cops and parks.
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
I'm not a Christian but I find Osteen and his contemporaries repugnant grifters.

I admire your willingness to think for yourself on this and not go along with the crowd.

It takes heart to do that.
Rolexeo · 26-30, M
I like theologians much better. They're actually real. They need to learn philosophy, debate people, and actually write thought-orovoking pieces. Joel Osteen is just a Christian themed life coach.
he also preaches that if you are a good christian you will be rewarded on earth with riches, etc. Not true but people want to believe it.
MarineBob · 56-60, M
@BiasForAction he gave his daughter a job as a backup singer for the church a nice $80,000 job thanks to payroll protection

 
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