How far fetched would a Class action lawsuit against Donald Trump be?

@Picklebobble2 Impressive answer for sure, does that amount to circumstantial evidence?

@Grateful4you To that my response would be no given that there were plenty of other countries going through the same and getting positive results from their policy making.

Sweden and New Zealand being the two obvious notable examples.
The ‘models’ for which were then undertaken by other countries.

@Picklebobble2 That makes perfect sense. I really appreciate your responses, thinking about the idea of a class action kept me awake for the better part of last night. Good food for thought for sure. Thanks! 😀

@MistyCee On your first point both. Because in practice both the POTUS and the government are above the law. That much is crystal clear. In the last 20 years I have seen a president authorize the government to torture people and carry out political assassinations, both of which are illegal under both domestic and foreign law in the US and the only result of that was the person who blew the whistle was locked up.

Now you have a president who has gotten a quarter of a million citizens killed through gross negligence and as a result of his own direct intervention. And I looked into qualified immunity and it only applies to duties carried out responsibly. That doesn't include gross negligence and dereliction of duties.


With the current state of the law what you already have is an effective sovereign. It is time to stop pretending otherwise.

The US has toppled entire regions of the globe nevermind single nations for less.


Again I see no compelling argument to shelter criminals from responsibility because they hold public office. In fact that completely renders democracy irrelevant if the government is not accountable to the people or the law.

I think Americans need to stop looking at their constitution as divinely inspired and realize the current system is completely broken. This is way beyond bandaids.

@MistyCee One thing we do agree on. One fake billionaire can't cover the damage done.

@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow I actually think we probably agree on a lot more than just that, really.

Back to your point, though, I don't really think federal judges ruling on class actions for damages are the way to fix things this big, although the courts certainly have a role to play.

In some ways, i'd like to see some major constitutional changes, but short of that, I'd go for smaller legislative changes aimed at taking back the legislative power that's been taken by the executive branch.

Biden may not be perfect, but he's less likely to wreck things to preserve executive power than Trump or even Obama, and with some smaller miracles, there might be a chance of small stuff, like 25th amendment implementation, reforming sovereign immunity, legislative oversight, interim appointments,special counsel stuff, etc.

I'm not optimistic about big changes, but there's a small chance for some smaller ones, not to mention the spectre of a bipartisan Congressional drive to fix things, which might be a lot more effective without Trump's interests weighing in against getting things done.

McConnell will likely have a huge role to play, and while I'm no fan, putting in Biden instead of Trump may help.

The first step, I think will have to be stimulus for the economy and of course, public health, and both of those things will be easier to work on without Trump trying to wet his beak.

@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow Probably not. But come Jan.21st. There are folks in NYC chomping at the bit to have their day in court but you are already aware of that.

@Grateful4you For a variety of reasons I wish them luck.

@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow Yup, me too.

@bookerdana Naw, I know enough to take your word.

@Grateful4you rudys always holding up evidence that seemingly doesn't meet minimum legal standards

@bookerdana Kind of hard to take him seriously, sweating hair dye in some sordid parking lot. A true legal eagle.

@softspokenman Survivors of family who have died from Covid. Specifically. "Picklebobble" made some really great comments which makes the question much less far fetched than I thought. I would go 4-5 billion to ensure his ass ended up totally broke. LOL

@Grateful4you I see the long lines, multiple rows of cars, waiting to be tested. The lines where food is being handed out are almost as long.
"It's a hoax by the Democrats to make me look bad."
For four long agonizing years.
The election, "I won by the way, it was rigged by the Democrats, bad people, horrible people."

Your insane he's not.

@softspokenman I am SO looking forward to Jan.21st. He doesn't even realize he self-sabotaged his own re-election. What a dumbass!