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Can the UK Conservative Party sink any lower?

Yesterday, Donald Trump retweeted this by Katie Hopkins and the Tory Party leadership contenders refused to condemn it:


You could call it dog-whistle racism but then the idea of a dog whistle is that it has a certain subtlety which appeals to your target audience whilst allowing plausible deniability. This is more like a klaxon.

Katie Hopkins is a well-known controversialist here who made her name being a love-to-hate character on the Apprentice and later became a newspaper columnist for the Sun. Her contributions include wishing migrants to be shot down by gunboats and that we need a 'final solution' from British Muslims. I fully believe that she is a performance BS artist like Milo and Ann Coulter, though her followers do take her seriously.

Since Trump's retweet, only Rory Stewert - the moderate no-hoper contender - has said that this was wrong. Jeremy Hunt has come out and said he 'agrees with the sentiment' though 'wouldn't have used the same words'. Others have refused to condemn it. A lot of these politicians are affluent centre-right establishment types and have never supported anything so explicitly racist before so what is going on?

I think its two things. Firstly, its the typical fealty that UK politicians show to American power. Britain is no longer an imperial super-power so the best it can do is be BFF to American and do everything America says so that we can feel we have a 'special relationship' with them. This attitude is particularly prevalent on the right of British politics though it did also (for obvious and awful reasons) include Tony Blair.

The second thing is that Hunt and others are vying to get in the final two of their party leadership contest. Boris Johnson is certain to get that far but there will be one other contender in the final two who will be voted leader by the Conservative Party membership. That said membership selectorate is very right-wing and the 'calculation' that Hunt is making is that if he can 'out populist' Boris, then he stands a chance.

What of standards though? 'Londonistan' evoked the idea that Muslim immigrants are taking over the capital city. There is also an attempt to link immigrants with a crime epidemic. Not only does this lack an evidence basis, but it heightens tensions around issues of race. The UK Conservative Party is heading in a nationalist-right direction.
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
That is really low but they could probably go lower and will. A racist can change but only if they have an awakening, there's a ex white supremacist who does that in Indiana, we need more of him and until we have more of what he's doing to deradicalize people, we'll always have those types around.... forever scare mongering.

In Shane's words since he was born, he was taught that the enslavement and extermination of all nonwhites will usher in the second coming of Christ.

That's what white supremacists teach their children.

[b]The point is[/b] while this woman I'm sure wasn't exactly taught that, I'm 90% sure she was raised in a similar way and until we have actual deradicalization policies going on it's going to continue.

Link to what I was talking about:

[b]https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2018/07/reform-white-supremacists-shane-johnson-life-after-hate/[/b]
LoneKnight · M
@SatanBurger It was not a rumour.

http://www.hoaxorfact.com/crime/population-jihad-muslim-doctor-sterilized-women.html

In a country where Muslims are minorities, they always cries victims and accuse the majority, in order to cover up how non Muslims are being treated in Muslim majority country.

This have been happening to Hindus and Sikh women in Pakistan for generations.


During partition of Pakistan, there were 20 percent of Hindus there.Now there are less than 3 percent.The same thing happening to Hindu population in Bangladesh.

But in India, Muslim population are steadily increasing and now their population is about 300 million.Yet Indian Muslims constantly accuse Hindus of being intolerant.Indian liberal medias often accuse Hindus for the crimes that were committed by Muslims.


Yes, I agree.Katie Hopkins shouldn't have said that.
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@LoneKnight The police can't even confirm if it's true or not so it's a rumor.
LoneKnight · M
@SatanBurger It is true.

https://www.jihadwatch.org/2019/06/sri-lanka-muslim-doctor-accused-of-sterilizing-non-muslim-patients-without-knowledge-consent

Afghanistan used to be a Hindu and Buddhist majority country.Now there are only Muslims because they committed genocide on those Dharmic followers for generations and they ensured only Muslims population grows.

Abrahmic Muslims and Christians hate Dharmic followers and Christian controlled western media's always supported Muslims when Muslims committed genocide on Hindus and other Dharmic followers for generations.Another reason they kept quiet is because those westerners don't want to anger Islam and lose their trillion dollars business deals with oil rich Islamic countries like Saudi Arabia etc.
Now that Muslims have started to infest western countries. I am seeing a lot of westerners , especially whites are complaining about Muslims.Sometimes, I find this hilarious.

I know a lot of things about Islam and Christian west after I started to embrace my Hindu identity and learn the true history of India.
I know how Muslims have been trying to destroy Hinduism in India for 1000 years and how Christians are trying to convert Hindus and other Dharmic followers for generations.
By the way, have you ever seen a Hindu Jesus?.


They used this kind of tactics to lure and convert Hindus.

Here is another thing.During colonial rule, British encouraged Muslims to feel superior than Idol worshipping Hindus.
So from Karmic perspective , the time have come for them to know Islam better.
SmartKat · 56-60, F
Right-wingers are bastards all over the world.
TheConstantGardener · 56-60, M
I have mixed feelings on this. I think that the amount of deaths and assaults that are occurring in London is appalling and that something needs to be done about it over and above words of condemnation and blame-shifting.

Having said that, nobody needs a lecture from KH or Donny.
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@TheConstantGardener Yes there is a problem and the police need to sort it out. As you say, those people are no help to anyone.
MartinII · 70-79, M
@Burnley123 The police? Perhaps some others might acknowledge a share of responsibility.
SW-User
🤬 So angry about the whole thing I can't comment politely
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Wol62 · 51-55, M
@Burnley123 Got it, he does an excellent job!
@PainfulTruth A yes another right wnger believing we are still in the 1200s and this is Crudader Europe.
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@PainfulTruth You know it's funny, the knights Templar got accused of worshiping Baphomet which I didn't find out until two days ago was actually a smear against Muslims centuries ago.

You lot have forever been saying the same things about other religions for many centuries, time to give it a rest 👈🏻
Picklebobble2 · 56-60, M
Power is what they all crave at a time when the populace in both America and the UK are sick to the back teeth of their posturing.

There's nothing much new in any of this, other than the fact that neither the Left in America nor here in England is counteracting this endless display of drivel and diatribe from factions of the Right all out to get media likes and the prospect of raising Sky and Breitbart voter/viewers blood pressure in the run-up to the next election.

London does have a problem at the moment. Quite why is open to debate and what, if anything, is being done to counter it isn't being publicized when perhaps it really should be.

But then, responding to some anonymous tweetster using Trump's physog as if it's from the ham himself is also a low-end-appeal-to-the-bubba's-of-this-world's idea of political fact.
It’s not the first time Trump has retweeted something racist in order to scare his reactionary base here.
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@walabby [quote]Renaming countries, and cities. Why call Roma, "Rome"? Moskva, "Moscow"??
[/quote]

Because we are GREAT Britain and these pesky foreigners gave their places bad names which we couldn't pronounce. So we gave them better names.

😜
@MartinII But [b]is[/b] it ? It is true that people emigrated from many of these countries in the first place because of the results of western colonialism. But [b]that’s[/b] a truth that’s often denounced as “being politically correct”.
TheConstantGardener · 56-60, M
@Burnley123As far as I am aware there is no connection to the current situation and any particular religion or race. These are not crimes committed on any ideological basis but are related to the control and supply of illegal substances and the so-called, “county lines” situation.
MartinII · 70-79, M
But is what Hopkins says wrong ??

By the way, in the Brexit context Stewart is the extreme, not the moderate, candidate. And as for the Conservative Party membership being “very right-wing”, pots and kettles come to mind!
Wol62 · 51-55, M
@MartinII But you have offered any evidence to back up your "argument" either.
Wol62 · 51-55, M
https://metro.co.uk/2019/06/16/murder-graph-shows-london-killings-compare-us-cities-9971033/
MartinII · 70-79, M
@Wol62 Can you read?! And anyway, your supposed link appears in my feed merely as text, so I couldn’t access it even if I wanted to. Tell me what it says!
nacnud · 31-35, M
In the past she has called immigrants cockroaches!

If one needs an idea of how bad Katie is here is one example On a different topic -children's names.

https://youtu.be/izW_IZeBHhE
Wol62 · 51-55, M
Katie Hopkins, is that cocksucker still going?
Wol62 · 51-55, M
Watch Andrew Neil, of all people, destroy Kate Hopkins.

[youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPGJs_skkgI]
Wol62 · 51-55, M
@Burnley123 Please do, he destroyed her Londonistan argument back in 2015. Apparently there are large parks of the UK that we have given up to the "muslims" Asked where these areas where, she didn't have any answer and started whittling on about her kids nativity play.
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@Wol62 It's like I say, she is a performance BS artist who is good at selling right-wing fake news. She is not a stupid person and much too clever to actually believe what she says.
Wol62 · 51-55, M
@Burnley123 Yes, she just lacks conviction and is in it for the money, but then, I thought everyone knew that about her.
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Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@SW-User They have different politics but I'm grouping them together by role they play. They are political actors who make money off the controversy and probably don't believe it all themselves. Their fans do though.
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