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Is anyone else concerned about how our money is inherently worthless? 馃槀 imo it鈥檚 gold/silver or nothing

PlatoscaveF
It is created out of thin air.

Not a good plan.
InvaderNice26-30, M
Grammar Nazi here... it鈥檚 INTRINSICALLY worthless... not inherently. 馃槒

But isn鈥檛 currency still backed by gold?
MrMonnyPenny22-25, M
@InvaderNice There鈥檚 also a theory that this fake money is the cause of the boom/bust cycle.

Time preference is how much people are willing to delay in order to gain more.
Interest rates under natural conditions (different loaners competing in a market) should reflect the average time preference of the population.
Since they are set artificially by the government, they send the wrong signals to businessmen as they invest to produce goods that people won鈥檛 have the savings to buy.

So Boom = when the banks give loans out to businesses
Bust = when the investments fail
InvaderNice26-30, M
@MrMonnyPenny I鈥檒l keep reading that over until I understand it lol
MrMonnyPenny22-25, M
@InvaderNice best explanation I鈥檝e found is this book: https://mises-media.s3.amazonaws.com/What%20Has%20Government%20Done%20to%20Our%20Money_3.pdf

Part of the reason it鈥檚 all so complicated is to disguise what鈥檚 going on 馃槀
OggggO36-40, M
Specie currency is extremely bad. It鈥檚 one of the worst possible monetary systems.
OggggO36-40, M
@MrMonnyPenny [quote]But it鈥檚 not arbitrary because it鈥檚 what naturally emerged as a medium of exchange.[/quote]

Answer this: why is gold valuable?
MrMonnyPenny22-25, M
Gold is valuable because its rare, has commodity and productive uses (Dentistry, Electronics, Jewellry), and because most people recognise its value, it鈥檚 become valuable as a medium of exchange. (I want to acquire gold now, not because I want jewellry but because I want to trade it for something else).
-There鈥檚 also the fact that it can easily be melted down into various sizes and is transportable


So whereas, discovering more gold causes inflation it鈥檚 still a benefit to society as it has productive/commodity uses. Fiat currency on the other hand doesn鈥檛 bring the same benefit to society when it inflates.

Also, I don鈥檛 necessarily care about gold - I just care about what has emerged as the go to commodity as unit of exchange. (Whether it be gold, silver, corn, salt, bottles of gin, cigarettes etc.)
OggggO36-40, M
@MrMonnyPenny The two more modern reasons are very bad for a currency. You don鈥檛 want to be hoarding something that could be put to productive use. The third is highly arbitrary, we use it for jewelry because we have decided it鈥檚 pretty and valuable, but it鈥檚 valuable because we think it鈥檚 pretty.

Also, your apparent fear of inflation is very I鈥檒l founded.
When Babylon falls again, we can cast our silver and gold in to the streets. A significant EMP blast would render money worthless. I hope there are tacticians who have considered this and have contingency .
OggggO36-40, M
@puck61 If we are talking about societal collapse due to lose of electronics, I鈥檇 much rather have bills. Can use them as tinder, napkins, rags, emergency tp, etc., plus they are light and flexible, which makes them very portable. All you can do with gold is look at it, and it鈥檚 really heavy. Silver is moderately more useful, since with the right knowledge and tools you can use it to purify water for drinking, but there are other methods that are more practical.
MrMonnyPenny22-25, M
I found this a good explanation: https://mises-media.s3.amazonaws.com/What%20Has%20Government%20Done%20to%20Our%20Money_3.pdf

 
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