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All democracies have a big problem...

they are based on voting sytems from the 19th or 18th century. things that made sense then for logistic reasons could easily be overcome today.

but noone in power in any country wants to modernize these flawed systems... cause why would you change a system that put you into power anyway. this is true for all political sides, and one of the main reasons why people loose their faith into politics.

anyone who calls themself a democrat (and i dont mean the political party from the usa here) cannot possibly support systems like we are using them.
Cierzo · M
All democracies have a serious problem, that a large proportion of voters:
a) Either vote thinking of their personal or corporate interests, not what is best for the country, or

b) They vote for candidates and programs that have been approved by financial and corporate powers and defend their interests. Not all of them to the same extent, but no real change may come from the ballot box.
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
It's a really interesting and thoughtful post.

We have to admit that 'democracies' only became truly democratic from the late 19th century to the mid-twentieth century. Non-property owners and women having the vote is a relatively recent thing.

I see the big problem as money. You can vote how you like and it does have an impact but corporations are international and have actual political power which is only weakly constrained by national governments. They problem with democracy is that it doesn't go far enough.
Wraithorn · 51-55, M
Yes. Choosing/voting by selecting from a bunch of liars who are put there for us to vote for is not really Democracy.
Do you have any better proposals?

It's easy to point out flaws in an existing system, but the hard part is coming up with ways to fix them.
CynicGirl · 26-30, F
@MistyCee yeah... a ranking system, where if your first chocie is out you automatically have your 2nd choice count and so on till there is a consens of candidates. also splitting votes systems...

all that stuff would have been impossible in the 19th century but its easy to do today
@CynicGirl interesting.
Chastityrequired · 31-35, F
The problem with all democracies (unlike republics) is that, once people realize they can vote themselves money from the national treasury, they go broke.
jackson55 · M
What would you suggest?
jackson55 · M
@CynicGirl That's what the primaries are for to determine who's going to be on that list of possible candidates.
Picklebobble2 · 56-60, M
@CynicGirl Proportional representation. Often offered up as an 'antidote' to the 'either/or' option.

Thing is, every policy then becomes a compromise.
One party in power proposes one thing, opposition parties oppose, discussion ensues until compromise is reached.

And ultimately nobody is satisfied.
CynicGirl · 26-30, F
@jackson55 first off i am not aiming at us politics... also the usa system is heavily flawed in being a 2 party system only. imagine if people could vote libertarian.. and when it turns out their 20% or so wont make it they have a 2nd choice who to vote for instead.... that way they would vote first choice what they really want and not what they think has a chance to win or is the lesser of 2 evils
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