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[quote]“Now, therefore, I, Donald J. Trump, by the authority vested in me by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including the National Emergencies Act (50 U.S.C 1601, et seq.), hereby declare that a national emergency exists at the southern border of the United States,” it adds.

Since Congress has not allocated border wall funds, the proclamation would pull funds from various sources.

The proclamation reportedly proposes pulling “$681 million from Treasury forfeiture funds, $3.6 billion in military construction, $3 billion in Pentagon civil works funds, and $200 million in Department of Homeland Security funds,” an administration official told CNN.

If the proclamation is enacted, it would require the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers to build the wall, including seizing some private land on which the wall would be built.[/quote]
katielass · F
When he does this, and he will because nancy and the dumtards are not willing to compromise, they will cry foul even though odumbo used his pen to illegally grant legal status to millions of illegal aliens and they didn't say a word when the feds ordered odumbo to cease his illegal actions. It's like when odumbo threatened states to do what he wanted of he would withhold federal funds but when the repubs threaten to do the same they file lawsuits. Someone needs to inform these maggots that they are not running the show. Not quite yet.
eli1601 · 70-79, M
@calnative 😂
katielass · F
@calnative *yawns* I see your attempts to be clever have not advanced at all. Still retarded.
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Prttylttlthng · 41-45, F
UGH. He’s the WORST.
eli1601 · 70-79, M
@Prttylttlthng Yeah. He's the best.
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"A deliberate act, typically as a part of systematic campaign, that causes [i]human suffering[/i] or death on a large scale."

"Allegations of misconduct peculiar to officials such as [i]perjury of oath, abuse of authority, miss use of assets, failure to supervise, dereliction of duty, unbecoming conduct,[/i] and refusal to obey a lawful order."

He lied to the country in a promise that Mexico would pay for the wall.
peskyone · F
"Congress can undo a state of emergency declaration with a veto-proof majority vote."

Let's see what we are truly made of.
eli1601 · 70-79, M
@peskyone Hopefully, people that want to protect our borders.
peskyone · F
@eli1601

Sure, if that what makes you sleep better at night.
eli1601 · 70-79, M
@peskyone It doesn't. We still have a corrupt justice dept and a feckless congress. But it's a start.
windinhishair · 61-69, M
So you're reporting on something that might happen? If so, it will immediately be challenged and end up in the court system.
@windinhishair And not fare well there, in all likelihood.

Trump gets away with making up facts and telling his followers not to believe anything to the contrary in the press,but that's going to fly so well in the Courts, and while Trump undoubtedly has the power to declare a genuine emergency, he's going to have to defend this trumped up one in court, to judges who are not inclined to take kindly to lies and evasion.

On top of that, the circumstances surrounding the timing of this sudden emergency are arguably relevant, including not just the border situation itself, but Trump's statements, the Mueller investigation, indictments, etc.

And it's going to get ugly. Eminent Domain cases usually are, but in this case, it's not just due process, but also separation of powers and executive privilege ones as well, which may be sticky precedent down the road if Trump has to explain how the decision to act unilaterally was made.


I think declaring an emergency is a much better threat, much like shutting down the government, than it is a viable strategy. Even if Trump ultimately wins in Court, he'll lose more in terms of bad publicity.
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@MistyCee The "National Emergency" argument will almost certainly fail in court. It will be hard to justify when border crossings are at close to a 50-year low, and crime is also trending down. Even Trump's appointed judges would have a hard time ruling in his favor based on the law.

There are still eminent domain cases pending from wall extensions that were approved in 2006. Many of them, actually.

If such a declaration was viable, Trump would have done it a couple of days ago instead of capitulating.
You really think he's ready to do that yet?

I think it's going to be at least another couple of weeks before he tries that move.
helenS · 36-40, F
As long as Mexico won't pay for the wall, this observer from Europe will remain disappointed.
SW-User
The brilliance and beauty of our Constitutions Separation of Powers in all it's glory. When Congress stops listening to **ALL** it's constituents and wants to act like circus sideshow asshats instead the President has the power to step in and "fix" things as he and his voters see fit. Power to the people baby!
peskyone · F
@SW-User Congress still has veto power.
SW-User
@peskyone EXACTLY!
cuppatea · 31-35, F
So "The Great Negotiator" failed AGAIN to negotiate another deal.

Got it.
GunSmoke9 · 56-60, M
@PainfulTruth If they do they will argue on the shape of the table like in a past war.
GunSmoke9 · 56-60, M
@cuppatea For a few years the democrats wanted a DACA deal. Trump gives them one, democrats say it's not good enough. A lot of conservatives don't want a DACA deal.
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GunSmoke9 · 56-60, M
I really hope he doesn't have to do that. I also don't think the democrats will give anything for a wall.

 
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