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WHO Could Ever NEED An Assault Rifle? Maybe Colleen Hufford Could Have

All you "WHY do we need "guns" or "assault rifles only lunatics and white-neo-Nazi's (like me?) want one!"

Right, gun-banning Leftists, take a few mimutes and tell me if you ever heard of Collen Hufford?

WHO? Of course you haven't -

The September 24, 2014 attack in Oklahoma is somewhat notable in the annals of many officially uncalled terrorist strikes in that Nolen emulated a favorite ISIS death tactic no doubt learned online: he fully beheaded a co-worker—the beloved wife, mother, and grandmother Colleen Hufford—inside the Moore, Oklahoma food processing plant where they both worked. Shouting “Alluah Akbar” throughout the attack, Nolen used the same oversized butcher knife on the neck of a second co-worker, Tracy Johnson, when the company’s chief operations officer, a reserve law enforcement officer named Mark Vaughn, burst in with an AR-15 rifle. He shot and wounded Nolen as Nolen disengaged from his second victim and charged at him with the bloody knife.

The 2017 trial, which received only some highly localized Oklahoma TV news coverage, decisively showed this was neither mental illness nor workplace violence. Taped police interviews of Nolen and other evidence showed Nolen was motivated by Qur’anic scripture.Nolen has proven unrepentant.He responded that the Qur’an gave him the idea. (Qur’an 47:4 states that “When you meet the unbelievers, strike their necks.) Nolen answered: “Uh, no. I read the Qur’an. Like I say, the Qur’an is easy to understand. No one guides me but Allah.” (The Federalist December 4, 2018 Jihadist Beheader in Oklahoma Cleared For Execution.")

Did you get that? An evil assault rifle saved a woman's life. What? Didn't hear that story on CNN? Well then for you I guess it didn't really happen, then...but it did for Hufford's family.

So Leftists … you want to confiscate the guns of American citizens while at the same time opening America's borders to allow unlimited immigration from every country on Earth, right? There is a word for that sort of person...begins with a "T" and ends with a "R". Let you fill in the missing letters cause you already know what they are.
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M Best Comment
Great post Abrienda. I always appreciate how you thoroughly research these things and defend your position vigorously.

Excelsior!
Abrienda · 26-30, F
@SumKindaMunster They make it easy for me...first they launch hysterical, illogical, personal attacks (I like when I am called "white racist" or "Russian bot" the most) based only on their "feelings" not facts...then I drop a tonneth of brick on their heads with the facts they have never bothered to learn.

We all have to remember the leftist's end game is to ban and confiscate guns. But to come right out and say it is political suicide. Instead, they will carefully spin it, much like when Obama and Hillary said they support "Australian Style Gun Control." Though we are now seeing politicians taking bolder stances on bans and confiscations.

The attack on the 2A is slow, but deliberate, taking it apart bit, by bit. The AR-15 is symbolic for gun grabbers. Banning the AR-15 is gateway to banning all semi-automatics.

Follow this progression:
(1) The Department of Defense already has a definition of an assault rifle, and it includes select fire capabilities. Assault rifles are machine guns.

(2) An AR-15 does not fit the DOD's definition of an assault rifle, but politicians, gun grabbers and the media continues to refer to it as an assault rifle anyway.

(3) Washington state where I live, recently passed legislation that included a redefinition of an "assault rifle" as any semi-automatic rifle with a fixed or detachable magazine. Therefore, in WA state, grandpa's tube fed, .22 squirrel rifle is now legally defined as an assault rifle.

(4) Guess what's coming? An assault rifle ban.

I've defended the right to own an AR-15, as it is simply a semi-automatic firearm. It's nothing more than that. I can provide all kinds of reasons why they are excellent firearms for home defense.

We've been having this debate with gun grabbers for decades - trying to educate them, present them with facts, and discuss the consequences of disarmament. It's happening today in Venezuela - yep, their guns were confiscated. Their money and property was stolen. Political dissenters are gunned down.

I'm done debating this topic with grabbers.
Abrienda · 26-30, F
@BizSuitStacy Well love will do that to you, no?
@Abrienda love will do that indeed! But it's fun to be able to have inside jokes with friends.
Abrienda · 26-30, F
@BizSuitStacy YUP!!!!!🤗
Abrienda · 26-30, F
@SW-User Soooo...you NEVER judge other's ideas? Really?

How about men are superior to women? That's an idea...you good with that or you don't want to "judge" that idea?

How about pedophilia? That's an idea...you good with that or don"t you want to "judge" that idea?

How about the white race is superior to the black race? That's an idea... you good with that or don't you want to judge that idea?

As for their being 2 opposing sides OBVIOUSLY there are always 2 opposing sides - that's what makes it an argument, yes? So what are the two sides to the Holocaust? There was the Jewish side and the NAZI side … you think were equally VALID sides. Do you understand or are you unable to judge about that, too?


Look, you are too emotionally and intellectually immature for this discussion. Go back to your cereal and return when have learned to think more deeply and you can actually write something worth reading.
katielass · F
@Abrienda You have more patience than I have. lol
SW-User
@Abrienda you keep jumping to so many incoherent conclusions and presumptuously label me and my logic 😂

I never wanted to respond but if you REALLY are this desperate, I can respect your wishes
katielass · F
Great post, as usual. One day this country will be wishing they had guns because they will realize their mistake. But it will be way too late.
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@katielass The US is on the Citizen Disarmament warpath. But it's a very tall order as there are approx. 350 million legally owned guns in the US. But we are seeing legislation at local levels now, where, with a stroke of a pen, thousands, of law abiding citizens are suddenly criminals, simply because they own a gun or an accessory that was banned by the local czars.

The Aussie gov't managed to collect about 650K in the late 90s with their gun grab after the Port Arthur massacre. Funny thing...one of the fasted growing crimes in Australia...otherwise law abiding citizens buying and carrying (concealed) firearms.
Abrienda · 26-30, F
@windinhishair PROVE IT! Are you a weapons expert now? You've never even SEEN one before. Don't you understand your OPINION means NOTHING against the actual cases I cited, or do you deny they took place? You want to live in your own fantasy world then do it in that small space between your ears but in the real world that exists outside that little bubble of ignorance it HAPPENS and I gave you the references...deal with it and stop making a fool of yourself.

You know what weapon stopped the First Baptist Church kille in Texas in 2017? It was an AR 15 but please don't let any inconvenient fact get it the way of your alternate universe. And for God's sake don't actually READ anything about the subject just let Soros and CNN tell you what to think and repeat like a robot.
Abrienda · 26-30, F
@windinhishair Are you telling me that the man who stopped the killing in Texas with an AR 15 was the focus of the story, him or his weapon? Oh, and of course you heard of THIS story and the ones I linked you too, yes? Are you telling me they were widely covered, which is why you never heard of them?

You are entitled to your opinion but not your own facts of which you have proven you have none. You've lost, you should accept it and move on. I am sure there are many other opportunities on SW for you to show your ignorance.

But you won't. I are too insecure, you need the last word and I know you will soon prove me right again. Nothing you can say now will not change the fact you don't know what you are talking about and are no longer credible enough to bother with.
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@Abrienda Of course I read the story, as it happened, and was reported in the mainstream press. But you won't be satisfied until these are the headlines:

[big][b]Good Samaritan with AR-15 Stops Church Killer[/b][/big]
[b]26 Others Die[/b]

You are clueless about what is being reported and what is not. But that's what you get when you only watch the fake news feeds.
Abrienda · 26-30, F
@windinhishair No dumbo...I am of course referring to the one I posted. AGAIN you are too dense or intentionally stupid to get the point of this post so it is pointless to continue because now you are reduced to trolling. And I delete trolls and those who use foul language as you comrade Gambol who posted his filth then blocked me like the coward he is could tell you.
SW-User
He does not need an AR-15 to stop a knife attacker .-.

Plus, that dude is completely nuts ._.
If he says it's easy to understand the Qur'an, he missed out on the scholars that spend their entires lives reading and studying the story behind the Qur'an of its time just to translate and give the events being spoken about in the book
SW-User
@katielass anyone who believes this is indoctrinated and brainwashed into:

1. Imagining there are 2 opposing sides
2. It is impossible to think and change as a human
3. You can assert more than a claim about somebody's values and ideas and understanding without
4. Not judging ones ideals
Abrienda · 26-30, F
@SW-User This is based on YOUR dee understanding of that work? And I agree about speculations so leave out your "speculations" as to my understanding of a book YOU HAVE NEVER EVEN F****** READ or else quote to me from the Koran where I am mistaken, cretin!
SW-User
@Abrienda listen v.v
I know what I am talking about. Just as I am sure of what I know and believe, I am sure that you are not going to listen

I like your attitude, passion, courage, and your tenacity :)

There was a time I was like you. I mean it. I just really don't have the drive in me to convince you or even share my ideas cuz ya wanna shut it down v.v
And not listen. So please understand :)
windinhishair · 61-69, M
Well, gosh, since a single assault weapon worked once, we should arm everyone with them, even children, the elderly, the mentally ill. Maybe even make it mandatory with a prison term if you don't own one. Then we'll all be much, much safer.
@windinhishair FINALLY you are starting to make sense.
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@Abrienda An AR-15 rarely saves lives. And it does get reported, perhaps not to the extent you would like, but reported it is. One of the posters here remembers the incident you describe reported in the press. Your whole premise is wrong.
@windinhishair The number of DGUs (defensive gun uses) far outweighs criminal gun violence. In the vast majority of those cases, the potential victim was convinced they would have been killed or seriously injured. The firearm is merely brandished, and that alone usually stops the assault. Rarely are shots fired, and DGUs do not reported in the news. But I've seen 13 independent studies conducted on DGUs, including studies from the CDC, LA Times and even CNN. CNN, by the way, did NOT publish their findings...I wonder why? The numbers from the survey range from 100K+ DGUs per year to more than 3 million DGUs per year. The truth is likely somewhere in the middle - but that's a helluva lot less than the 33K gun deaths - 67% of those are suicides. And if we learned anything from the Australian gun grab - take away guns from those who want to kill themselves, and they use another method.

More guns more deaths? Nope - and I know you've seen this one before. It's the FBI's Uniform Crime Report. Firearm homicides have been in a steady decline over the last 25 years. They are approximately 50% less firearm homicides in the US today than in 1993. But gun ownership over this same period? It's way up. Citizens in the US purchase millions of guns legally every month.

The old leftist saying used to be "no good guy with a gun has ever stopped a mass shooting." Mass shooting, by the Mother Jones definition is a shooter shooting/killing 4 or more people. It's basically illogical because if the mass shooter isn't stopped almost instantly, it's because there is no one there with a gun. If they are there with a gun, the shooter is stopped almost instantly. Case in point, when a shooter took a rifle to a mall in Portland Oregon, armed with multiple magazines. Perfect scenario for a mass shooting...except there was a good Samaritan with a concealed pistol. The shooter ultimately turned the gun on himself and no one else was hurt. Did the good Samaritan stop a mass shooting? Probably yes...but because he didn't shoot and kill 4 people first, Mother Jones doesn't report it.

Using the same logic as above, I can say "no gun law has ever stopped a criminal from using a gun in a crime."
SW-User
There is no such thing as an "assault rifle." No rifle or other firearm is capable of assaulting you. Only people can assault you, and they can use any number of weapons to do so. They can use firearms, of course, or a pencil, automobile, bat, screwdriver, airplane, etc.
abe182 · 46-50, M
I remember when that happened I live nearby. Absolutely awful!
Abrienda · 26-30, F
@abe182 Yes...and you will more of it unless you get control of your country's borders.
abe182 · 46-50, M
@Abrienda completely agree
Abrienda · 26-30, F
@abe182 Take away my gun...let unknown foreigners who don't speak my language into my neighborhood ...welcome to the USA?

There are only four countries that have not had a SINGLE terrorist attack or attack by a Moslem "refugee" on a citizen including murder and rape. Those are the Czech Republic, Slovakia, Poland and Hungary...why? Cause we GUARD OUR BORDERS!
Assault rifle HA HA --- I want a Tommy gun with a 100 round magazine clip -
Atrevido1 · 61-69, M
Amazing post. You are a warrior my friend.
Sheep, need not apply
Abrienda · 26-30, F
@Atrevido1 I watched Valkyrie last night ... I altered a line from that great movie as my own - "There is no problem on earth that cannot be solved by the application of force."

I was also thinking ... how much fun would it have been for the Nazi Brownshirts in 1930's Germany if every Jew they tried to attack had a gun to defend themselves?
LTKISS · 56-60, M
You are doing a great job here again.
Abrienda · 26-30, F
@LTKISS God I wouldn't want any of these "men" around who anti-post here... if there was ever any trouble I would need to protect THEM! Useless.
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Budwick · 70-79, M
The 2nd Amendment
"... the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed. - but ya gotta [i]really [/i][b]Need [/b]it, M,Kay?"
Rocknrod · 61-69, M
Well done.
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SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
@Abrienda Gambol is an insincere faggot who sups at the trough of leftist propaganda.

This response is typical of him. Mocking, insincere, derogatory and lacking substance.
Abrienda · 26-30, F
@SumKindaMunster You just summarized all Leftist "thinking"...that's why he needs emoticons to express himself because his command of language and logic is so poor.

But I love Leftists who never held or fired a gun before in their lives unless it had water in it lecture about what gun SHOULD be used in situations where they would be in the nearest bathroom behind a locked door throwing up from fear.

Besides which they missed my point... you ONLY hear of guns when there is a crime, NEVER when it stops one. I wonder if our two pathetic weapons "experts" could tell us what weapon was used to stop your Baptist Church shooter in Texas some short time ago? I will give them both a hint it was an A...R...?
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SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
@DoctorChristian People who childishly put down an entire demographic as "retards" are obnoxious trolls looking for attention as a way to pump up their obvious low self esteem. 😂😂

 
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