I Am Not Politically Correct

@Shoes: it does also say something about me. You are right. I am a product of my culture, my ubringing, and my experiences of life, intermixed with innate qualities.

The world was a different place when I was growing up...and before I was born. Throughout this time, women were women and men were men. There were clothes that women wore and clothes that men wore. Bathrooms for men and bathrooms for women.

Go ahead and judge me on all I've ever known the world to be. Now it has turned on its head, and you expect me not to be disturbed or feel the world has gone mad? From my perspective, it has.

I was being honest not discriminatory. Would you rather I lie? Would you rather I pretend? Would you rather I have no voice?

Hmm, your answers will say a lot about you too.

@Shoes: your accusation and assumptions of me are unfounded and unfair. I hate no one. I believe in compassion for humans and animals. To accuse me of not thinking transgender are humans too just smacks of your own bigotry.

I have compassion for anyone who suffers...[b]ANYONE[/b]. However, that does not mean I also have to agree or share the same values as them. This is where your blindness resides. You think having compassion and understanding of another's suffering must also mean you agree with their values. This is an erroneous assumption.

You also are a product of your experiences, and that's why you are calling me a bigot.

I feel for the plight of the trans community. A genuine trans person must be in turmoil to be born in the wrong body, and my heart goes out to them, but for a small minority, you want to turn what has been societal norms on its head. You want a trans girl with a pe*is to shower with girls at school? No! It's not right. It's never been this way. It opens the door to so many unforeseen negative consequences.

You do not have to agree that cross-dressing is OK, but when you go on a rant where you basically accuse these people of destroying society, you are betraying your hatred for them even if you can't admit it.

Stop and think for a moment. Trans women have been using the women's restroom forever, with no one noticing. But a boy is not going to say he's a girl just to get into the girl's locker room to shower with them. Meanwhile, you want trans men, with male body parts, using the women's room and showering with your daughter because they were born female. It works both ways.

The "madness" is coming from conservative bigots who are creating a problem that did not exist until now. A year after same-sex marriage was legalized in the US, these people realize that they lost, so they're looking for another innocent group of people to terrorize. This is disgusting.

So your veiled insult must include yourself. Anyone who posts anything on here must have a lot of time on their hands, or is it only those you disagree with?

I can't take people like you serously. You are the type who only has tolerance for those who think as you do. If they don't, you insult them.

@imgreywlf: I am not a bigot. You are very judgemental. This post is about the way I feel having grown up in a different generation with different societal norms and values. A culture where men dressed as men and women dressed as women. You are judging me on my own cultural conditioning. It's as bad as judging a person for having different sexual orientation. It's still judging.

You rush in calling me a bigot because I express my honest feelings. I don't hate anyone. I don't hurt anyone. I wish no harm to anyone, yet you and others like you would have me pretend to feel differently. I am expressing [i]my[/i] experience. I don't need your bigotry and judgement just because I'm an older white lady, brought up in a different era than today. You lack as much understanding as you ascribe to me.

Interesting thoughts and you make some great points and you may be right about some things.I live in the US so I'm not sure how the policies are in the UK.

But I know that here since about 1967 women have been dressing like tomboys-- that is a cheap imitation of him while he has been scorned for wearing anything even remotely feminine. I think there is an underlying anger on his part about that and probably deservedly so.

I have studied this and I think what is good for the one has to be good for the other but I do agree it's not the world that you and I grew up in as we're very close to same age.

I think the underlying issue is that he is fighting for gender equity--and maybe that's a good and maybe that's a good thing-- but it's going to bring about some changes to some are not going to like.

By "Perhaps some people have a lot of time on their hands", I was referring to the people who are trying to legislate dress codes for schools.

It's very interesting though, that you thought this is about you. Why is that?

I thought you were from the UK, so I asked some questions. It looks like you're from the US, so you don't really know what this issue is about, do you?

Take me seriously or not, I don't post fiction here. As to your other claims, your opinion is as ill formed as your post. And it's very telling that instead responding to the post, you immediately resorted to a personal attack.

I didn't say you did, but you have to admit that historically society has been less than accommodating to trans people. Here in the US we have politicians getting hysterical over trans women using public restrooms, despite the fact that they have been using them forever with no negative incidents and without anyone even noticing.

@Shoes: I agree that you can't expect people to accept, but people can be tolerant. Can't you also be tolerant of me expressing my honest feelings? I am not intolerant of people's differences, but I have zero tolerance for cruelty and meanness, and foolish people when they start insulting me unfairly. I won't put up with it.

The fact that other people's harmless choices bother you so much says more about you than them.

By the way, I'm a boring vanilla male who is not threatened at all if other men want to wear skirts or refer to themselves as female. Their choices have zero effect on me and do not "phase out" my gender whatsoever.

Perhaps some people have a lot of time on their hands. Is it really a problem in the UK if a boy wants to dress like a girl? I guess I don't know why they needed dress rules in the first place? Are all students in the UK (public and private schools) required to wear a uniform?

Got it. They terrify you by forcing you to confront the arbitrary cultural assumptions you have always taken for granted. You're slowly realizing that everything you built your life on may be a lie. Who wants to confront that? Of course you're scared.

The question isn't acceptance - you can't force anyone to accept anything - but tolerance or at least coexistence. For example, I don't follow any religion and wish religious extremism didn't exist, but I put up with it anyway.

You obviously don't understand either. You're a slave to the closed minded and bigoted environment you grew up in. Maybe someday you will understand that people who are different from you are also human and that their concerns are as valid as yours.

I don't care who you are...once you start with the insults and name calling, you are gone. I won't tolerate hatred on my posts.

You may disagree with me. That's okay, but I don't tolerate insulting behavior.

When you say that I attacked you, you're making it up. I asked some questions, to which you responded with a personal attack. It's not about a tit for tat here. Point to where I attacked you.

I probably have more compassion and understanding in my little finger than you leftists here. I do [b][i]NOT[/i][/b] HATE ANYONE!!! Get that through your sanctimonious thick skulls!

It's not that we are scared of trans people, it's ... never mind. You are set in your mindset, and will never understand. It's futile to explain.

You lived a sheltered life. There have always been trans people, but their visibility depended on how much terror and hatred the rest of us would inflict on them.

@Shoes: obviously you never heard a word I said, so I won't repeat myself. You just validated my point about you not understanding.

I've never terrorized or hated anyone, and you appear very judgmental in your assumptions of my life.

Ahh, so you attack me, but can't take it when I bring it back on you? Never mind. Have a good day.

I do live in the US, but I'm also British. Born and raised.

I give up. You can't argue with a closed mind.

I am sorry Carissimi that you are being misunderstood and getting this unnecessary ulgy hate. Having a different opinion on things should not be a crime or "bigoted" as overly sensitive whiners call it. Everyone has a different morals and values, your thoughts isn't hurting anyone the people need to start practicing what they preach as a matter of fact I don't understand how they live when they can't even at least be mature about it and politely disagree with people. I feel you trying to talk to these stupid people.