Question for all the pro-Palestine/Gaza college protesters...

@DailyFlash True. But there's many brutal wars indiscriminately killing innocent people around the world. Some more heinous. There's more than 30 armed conflicts taking place in Africa right now and what many of them they do to innocent people is beyond abhorrent.

@sunsporter1649 right

@Ynotisay
And how many are getting a continuous air-bridge from the US, and $26B to keep them going, and full support from the bulk of the majority of the US Congress, and non-questions asked from the Administration?

Students demonstrated Vietnam, because we were directly involved. We're also directly involved in this conflict.

Students should be able to protest against the loss of innocent life. The main problem is that multiple parties, and an organized PR campaign, have co-opted the real issue.

@Northwest Oh you can protest whatever you want. But you don't break the law to do it. That's an easy one.
And I don't get how "we" are directly involved in this. Who is "we?" And how are "we" involved? Tax dollars? To stave off attacks from all sides on the one Democracy in the region that would require a U.S. military presence? Which means more money and American deaths? Maybe a little different than conscription, right? There's zero equation between this and the Vietnam War protests. None. Other than the age of the protestors.
The real issue is a far right extremist, driven by religious bullshit, seeking power and control. Protest THAT. Or you can choose to protest far right extremists, driven by religious bullshit, under the guise of terrorism. Protest THAT.
If the U.S. and the other allies weren't supporting Israel, because the U.S. isn't alone on this one, there could be potentially be FAR more deaths of innocents. As well as enemy nations being emboldened throughout the region. And world.
These protests are and will have ZERO impact on any decisions that are made. These aren't being driven by the realities. This is pure emotion and virtue signaling. Like I said, NO ONE wants to see innocent people die. My take is fuck Israel, fuck Hamas and fuck religion. And now it's fuck rich, entitled students looking to rage, be seen and virtue signal. This is a big boy issue that's wildly complex. "From the river to the sea" doesn't cut it. It's Pollyannic and does more harm than good.

@Ynotisay
In case you missed it, the United States of America gave carte blanche to the Netanyahu government to kill around 20K+ women and children, in a campaign that's been ongoing for more than 6 months.

The self-defense justification evaporated following the first few days. And not that it matters, but the "only democracy" claim is the most accepted fallacy. Look at Israel's next door neighbor: Lebanon. It's a democracy.

I did not say students can be violent. They can protest lawfully, but they have been co-opted.

And it doesn't matter what caused us to intervene, the point is that we did, using planes, drones and missiles.

@Ynotisay
You seen to know, so give me some pointers, and how its democracy is different from Israel's.


Only if you're missing the bigger picture.

The initial onslaught was needed, as at that point, Israel had to make sure its Iron Dome was not overwhelmed. After that, it was about killing as many people as possible, to force them to leave.

Biden could have applied pressure. He did not.

I am going to vote for him, because Trump would be worse, but I'm not going to bury my head in the sand, and pretend what happened did not happen.

For the third time: the students were co-opted and as a result, the "peace" intent did not come through, and that's probably what the co-opters intended.

@Northwest Nah. You can learn about Lebanon on your own. And you'll see it's a far cry from how Israel operates. And I stopped at Biden didn't exert pressure. I'm done with this.

@Ynotisay
You made the claim, prove it. I am done with that.


Carefully, take head out of sand.

@Northwest students were being drafted to fight in Vietnam . That’s def being involved.
These college kids have no skin in this game (unless you count voluntarily going to Colombia then demanding Columbia change their endowments and investments. So entitled. Lol).

@AthrillatheHunt I am defending students' right to express their opinions, peacefully.

When did I need a justification to express my opinion?

Seems to be a new standard we're imposing on them. Why?


Why not? Did you go to grad school? How do you think these schools get their money? I'll explain it to you: it's an advanced payment, on what the students will be producing.

It's astonishing that no one sees this.

I'm sure some of them are entitled, but they ARE the reason these schools are getting money.

I was very aware who's paying for the research I was doing, but also just as aware that they are entitled to it as well, and they made $Bs out of the $Ms they poured into our research.

Once more, and read it slowly and absorb it, I'm supporting the students' right to peacefully express their opinion.

I was also crystal clear that this is co-opted.

More than half the protesters were not students, and some of the students did not understand what they were protesting. Protesting the slaughter of the innocents, is not expressed by wearing a Hamas headband, or shouting "death to America".

Get a clue.

@Northwest thanks for setting me straight dude . I’m still laughing at some of the students not even knowing what they’re protesting.

@DailyFlash And Israel wasn’t innocent people killed in the most horrific way? Don’t believe the lies of Satan!

@NoGamesTolerated I hate any innocent people dying

@DailyFlash well then you surely “hate” Hamas. Hmmm oh yes!

@NoGamesTolerated Hamas and the Israeli have a lot of innocent blood on their hands

@DailyFlash Well any country is going to defend itself. And in war there are always civilian casualties. Fact!