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This Roman dodecahedron was found in Norton Disney in the UK, nobody has a clue what it was used for! Give me your best ideas as to its use please?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lincolnshire-68908558
Northwest · M
Growing strawberries, or a cooking instrument, to measure different portions. Each hole has a different diameter measure different portions. If I can find one, I would use for pasta, but of course they had no pasta at the time.

The knobs hold in place, hands-free, to do the measurements.
AntisocialTroll · 56-60, F
@Northwest This is one of the largest ever found so at 3 inches across strawberries aren't likely.

It wouldn't work for pasta as the holes on opposite sides are different sizes.

I'm completely intrigued by it...
Northwest · M
@AntisocialTroll [quote]It wouldn't work for pasta as the holes on opposite sides are different sizes.
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It's not like they had pasta, but for measuring, it works, all you need is one hole.
medievil docking device..
AntisocialTroll · 56-60, F
@TheOneyouwerewarnedabout For docking what?
I've seen these before, I read somewhere that a knitting person thought it looked like a tool to facilitate knitting the fingers for gloves, I think it looks like it could be used to setup something like a tent or scaffolding or something along those lines.
AntisocialTroll · 56-60, F
@stound Interesting.
Well it just proves how old Dungeons and dragons is doesn't it🤷

Now they just need to find the other 6 dice😏
AntisocialTroll · 56-60, F
@OogieBoogie I'm loving that idea!
Penny · 46-50, F
Maybe it was used in making plates or bowls or dishes out of clay eta oh nvm if itso nly 3 inches. Maybe in jewelry making then?

or how about for help making these?
AntisocialTroll · 56-60, F
@Penny Can't see it myself...
Ynotisay · M
I've heard of those things before. I think it was decorative but who knows. Love the fact that no one can say for sure. That's pretty cool.
AntisocialTroll · 56-60, F
@Ynotisay I love it both aesthetically and because no one knows what it is!
Thodsis · 51-55, M
It looks like a die for playing games.

Perhaps RuneQuest isn't that old. ;)
AntisocialTroll · 56-60, F
@Thodsis Whilst I can see that, I kinda doubt it because for its time it would be a very high status expensive item due to how it was made.
Thodsis · 51-55, M
@AntisocialTroll Gambling on a game would have been a high status activity.
AntisocialTroll · 56-60, F
@Thodsis Yes but not high enough for an object such as this, only 33 have ever been found in the UK, if it were a gaming thing far more would've been found.
looping · 18-21
maybe it didn't have a use. someone might've just wanted to make an interesting looking piece of art?
AntisocialTroll · 56-60, F
@looping Possible...
Jlhzfromep · M
Used for knitting gloves on the battlefield and at home?
AntisocialTroll · 56-60, F
@Jlhzfromep I'm not convinced...
Jlhzfromep · M
AndysAttic · 56-60, M
It looks like a divers helmet for someone with a very thin neck and a small head.
AntisocialTroll · 56-60, F
@AndysAttic A 3" head...
SnailTeeth · 36-40
Easy, it's a tea infuser. Next.
AntisocialTroll · 56-60, F
@SnailTeeth Must be a large leaf tea...
SnailTeeth · 36-40
@AntisocialTroll Maybe it's a prototype for a fishing trap. It could just be art, it's nice to look at.
BobbyMoeven · 51-55, M
Coffee cup holder ..

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AntisocialTroll · 56-60, F
@BobbyMoeven For the tiniest cup ever?
AntisocialTroll · 56-60, F
@CountScrofula I'm fascinated by it!
NudasPriest · 46-50, M
Food holding toy for ancient roman pet bunnies.
NudasPriest · 46-50, M
@NudasPriest Or a girth gauge for ... something.
NudasPriest · 46-50, M
Could be the design for Covid-19-BC.
NudasPriest · 46-50, M
@AntisocialTroll I assume all the holes are different sizes? I haven't read the article, yet at least.
AntisocialTroll · 56-60, F
@NudasPriest It certainly looks like they're different sizes from the picture.
AntisocialTroll · 56-60, F
@NudasPriest The wiki article is even more interesting/intriguing, as well as the holes being different sizes there have been lots of different sized dodecahedrons found.
It just seems to be a mystery

[u]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_dodecahedron#Purpose[/u]

[quote]No mention of dodecahedrons has been found in contemporary accounts or pictures of the time. Speculative uses include as a survey instrument for estimating distances to (or sizes of) distant objects, though this is questioned as there are no markings to indicate that they would be a mathematical instrument;[6] as spool knitting devices for making gloves[3] (though the earliest known reference to spool knitting is from 1535,[7][8][9] and this would not explain the use of bronze or the apparently similar icosahedron which is missing the holes necessary for spool knitting); as part of a child's toy;[3] or for decorative purposes.[10]

Several dodecahedra were found in coin hoards, providing evidence that their owners either considered them valuable objects, or believed their only use was connected with coins.[11] It has been suggested that they might have been religious artifacts, or even fortune-telling devices. This latter speculation is based on the fact that most of the examples have been found in Gallo-Roman sites.[12][13] It has also been suggested that they might have been an object to test the skill of a metalsmith, perhaps as part of a portfolio to demonstrate their capabilities to customers or as a way to qualify for a certain status in a collegium (guild). This speculation is based on the historic cost of bronze and the level of skill necessary to cast such an object.[3] Some 19th-century antiquarians speculated that they might be weapons, such as the head of a mace or a metal bullet, but other scholars have suggested that the dodecahedra are too light to make an effective weapon.[3] [/quote]
Maybe it was a future prediction device ...

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dubkebab · 51-55, M
@BlueGreenGrey I'm pretty well convinced of ancient high technology. Precision stoneworks at Titticaca,Machu Pichu and pre-dynastic Egypt point to amazing tolerances unknown in modern construction.
Who's to say that highly evolved societies did or didn't rise/fall due to meteorite strikes or events like the Younger Dryas and then scattered survivors only had pieces of the grand designs...?

Or were these little brass orbs simply made to hold a fine matron's peacock feathers?
I can speculate all day. Pokemon relics fit the bill for me as well...
AntisocialTroll · 56-60, F
@dubkebab It never ceases to amaze just how advanced some societies were, imagine if the same people had access to the kinda of tech we have today, they'd be way ahead of us I'm sure.

 
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