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Electric Vehicles and those that have them.

wildbill83 · 36-40, M Best Comment
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WillaKissing · 56-60
@wildbill83 Thank you for this post.

Convivial · 26-30, F
While there may be some pollution from charging the vehicle, is still going to be a lot less than an ICE engine
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IronHamster · 56-60, M
@wildbill83 Lithium batteries are nearly 100% recyclable.
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@CestManan The range is several hundred miles, and you can charge your car in five minutes in some places, or at home.

However I agree that there are not currently enough charging points. But that will change 😊
IronHamster · 56-60, M
@SW-User Battery tech will definitely get better. At a Tesla supercharger mine car takes half an hour to charge. While the typical gas station stop is seven minutes, plugging in at home or work takes maybe 45 seconds, so while commuting it's actually a time savings.

In '22 when I bought the car, it was limited by charging stations. Now, I can travel the whole I5 corridor or the high desert to the east with no concerns of battery range, for one fifth the fuel cost of an ICE vehicle of comparable size, with a much quieter ride.

I understand, with current technology an EV isn't everyone's solution to transportation, but I am quite happy with my experience with it. The only way I will go back to an ICE vehicle is if I can pick up a nice Lamborghini for about $35k. I don't think that will happen.
MarineBob · 56-60, M
Ford Lightening can't see the customers with it. Can't go to the cabin with it.
WillaKissing · 56-60
@MarineBob So it is an EV then?
WillaKissing · 56-60
@WillaKissing Yes that is a problem for sure with the EV.
MarineBob · 56-60, M
@WillaKissing yes. But the chevy Blazer is a EV and with triple the distance and can charge anywhere
CestManan · 46-50, F
They take too long to charge and the range isn't very good. AND EV charging stations are in short supply.

Yeah people could buy an EV but it would end up being more hassle than anything.
IronHamster · 56-60, M
I love my Tesla. Unfuckingreal acceleration, quiet, comfortable. 125mph equivalent. And, it will drive itself.
Sidewinder · 36-40, M
Electric or not, it still doesn't change the fact that I'm not allowed to drive.
WillaKissing · 56-60
@Sidewinder Well that is a totally different issue all by itself is it not.
Thevy29 · 41-45, M
I may not have finished school but I see 4 things wrong with that meme. 5 if you consider it sounds like something Trump would say.
IronHamster · 56-60, M
@Thevy29 I'm looking forward to him being President again. We were so much better off.
daydeeo · 61-69, M
ChipmunkErnie · 70-79, M
Next step -- plug the auto into a wall socket. Or, better yet, solar panels on the roof of every vehicle.
SandWitch · 26-30, F
In Sweden where I live, about 95% of all private vehicles are electric and there are solar-powered charging stations on every second street corner if you need one and even out on country roads. It's only in North America that EV's have not been introduced to the public correctly, in fact it was presented backwards... the cars came first and then the charging stations came second. Sweden and Norway installed the charging stations first, then introduced mass EV transit after that.
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CestManan · 46-50, F
@JudyS
It only takes about 10 minutes to fill up my ICE vehicle

The only reason it takes THAT long to fill an ICE vehicle is because you have to wait in line to pay when there is someone playing lottery tickets.
IronHamster · 56-60, M
@JudyS My Tesla has a realistic range of 300 miles and takes about half an hour to charge. The average gasoline fillup takes seven minutes, but I can charge at home or work which takes almost no time.
LordShadowfire · 100+, M
That's why you can't just get an EV and pat yourself on the back. Where your home gets its power matters just as much, if not more.
CestManan · 46-50, F
@LordShadowfire What do people think they are accomplishing by buying an EV, other than maybe impressing the Jones'es?
SandWitch · 26-30, F
One of the biggest problems you folks in the USA and Canada are having with EV technology believe it or not, is the availability of new batteries for vehicles that require battery replacement.

New batteries are available for NEW cars fresh off the assembly line, but new batteries are not available for cars that have a time-expired battery life, or for EV cars that have a faulty battery that requires replacement while under warranty.

The most bazaar thing is, those new EV cars requiring battery replacement are being PARKED indefinitely until batteries become available. The owners of those cars are then renting gas-powered cars until their EV is fixed at the auto shop. EV's therefore are good until something happens to the battery, at which point the car must sit and wait for the battery supply issue to be resolved before it can be put back into service.
WillaKissing · 56-60
@SandWitch And id out of warranty the sheer cost of the replacement batteries is very expensive.

I posted earlier here I have a sixteen-panel solar bank here on my farm that feeds half of what I produce electric wise back onto the grid. I could not afford the 5 to 6 batteries the solar company would have sold to me at $7,500 a piece though and they would only last five to seven years needing to be replaced again. No way I can afford that.

My other issues being a timber and livestock farm those EV powered trucks cannot compare to gas powered in hauling and work use presently. Let alone their costs to buy.

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@NativePortlander1970

Clickbait. This is simply a regurgitated story from 2015 involving the test battery swap site.

Here are the only bits of note:


While at Harris Ranch, SFGATE tried, unsuccessfully, to use the TezLab app,
which tracks energy sources used by Tesla Superchargers.

So SFGATE reached out to TezLab directly to see whether it’s able to track the amount of
diesel, coal or other “nonrenewable” fuels that go into the mix at the Harris Ranch Supercharger.

TezLab spokesperson Ben Perlman emailed SFGATE on Friday to clarify
how Tesla’s energy is used at places like the Harris Ranch Supercharger.

“All electricity is created and used instantly by the mix of sources that are attached to the grid,” he wrote.

“The energy being used at the Harris Ranch supercharger is the same energy being used anywhere within CalISO’s grid coverage.”


Perlman wrote that by TezLab’s calculations, “nearly all Superchargers, homes, businesses, etc, in California are using those same sources of energy, unless they have their own dedicated solar or theoretical energy contracts, because of how grids work it’s not really feasible to look at one charger and say, ‘Oh, I’d rather drive another 5 minutes to this one that uses a cleaner source of energy’ since they are very likely on the same grid.”


The origin of the above clickbait article was about this 2015 Battery Swap Harris Ranch previous article:

The news was first broken by investigative journalist Edward Niedermeyer.
In May 2015, Niedermeyer drove from his Oregon home to Harris Ranch to see whether
“Musk’s latest bit of dream weaving could stand up to reality.”


So, in other words, blatantly misleading.
@SW-User Here's the funny thing, I cannot find any verifiable credentials on either Perlman or Niedermeyer, which leads me to surmise neither are credible, despite being published, but that is common nowadays, fake activist journalism.
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ninalanyon · 61-69, T
@TheOneyouwerewarnedabout I have a friend in France who does run his EV on solar panels.
IronHamster · 56-60, M
@TheOneyouwerewarnedabout I put too many miles on my Tesla to run them off my solar, but it is possible for some people.

California just commissioned a new battery storage site, because it has had so many incentives for solar that it now produces a surplus during the day and had to pay the electric grid owners to ship that out of state then back in the evening.

I have always supported nuclear energy. I disregard any greenie that doesn't. If CO2 is a problem, and that is still open to debate, then nuclear must be included in the solution.
WillaKissing · 56-60
@IronHamster I would love to see Fussion power developed as well.

I have a sixteen-panel solar panel on my farm no Lithium deep cell batteries though because they cost $7500 a piece. My panels even in December produce twice what I use daily and more so in the longer summer months and I sell that excess back to the power company who feeds it back to the grid.

So, electric wise I pay taxes and transmission fees. Last month's electric bill for those fees was $66.14.

And being a timber and livestock farm there yet has been produced an EV that meets my equipment needs or pickup truck power needs. And I do not have the hundreds of thousands to make that switch if they did.

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MrBrownstone · 46-50, M
@SW-User Let me know when gas runs out with EXACT date. Till then I will live in reality.
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