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DogMan · 61-69, M
A report from Vice last year pointed out that Gen Z, which consists of those born between the mid-’90s and the early 2000’s, are attempting to avoid the mistakes of millennials and focus on getting jobs that pay well without acquiring useless degrees and crushing debt:
For decades, technical and vocational schools have been falling out of favor, as more and more people opt for getting advanced degrees at four-year colleges. But recently, with the job market over-promising and underpaying, the trend has begun to reverse: States have started to reinvest in trade schools. And the generation inheriting volatile job prospects, a gig economy, and contract pay is following suit.
Generation Z—those who were born between the mid-1990s and early 2000s—are more often turning to trade schools to avoid the skyrocketing student debt crisis and hone skills that translate directly into jobs, from electrical engineering to cosmetology. While the power of trade unions has dwindled, and societal value still favors more elite professions, young students are finding themselves drawn to stable paychecks in fields where there’s an obvious need.
According to the Washington Post in October, the student debt has reached a mindblowing $1.53 trillion. This debt shared by so many millennials has put them on the fast track to failure despite the fact that they hold masters degrees. They own no houses because they can’t afford to have one, and it doesn’t help that despite their expensive degrees, they’re finding it difficult to get a decently paying job due to the fact that the job market is choked with an excess of graduates all trying to get the same career going.
For decades, technical and vocational schools have been falling out of favor, as more and more people opt for getting advanced degrees at four-year colleges. But recently, with the job market over-promising and underpaying, the trend has begun to reverse: States have started to reinvest in trade schools. And the generation inheriting volatile job prospects, a gig economy, and contract pay is following suit.
Generation Z—those who were born between the mid-1990s and early 2000s—are more often turning to trade schools to avoid the skyrocketing student debt crisis and hone skills that translate directly into jobs, from electrical engineering to cosmetology. While the power of trade unions has dwindled, and societal value still favors more elite professions, young students are finding themselves drawn to stable paychecks in fields where there’s an obvious need.
According to the Washington Post in October, the student debt has reached a mindblowing $1.53 trillion. This debt shared by so many millennials has put them on the fast track to failure despite the fact that they hold masters degrees. They own no houses because they can’t afford to have one, and it doesn’t help that despite their expensive degrees, they’re finding it difficult to get a decently paying job due to the fact that the job market is choked with an excess of graduates all trying to get the same career going.
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justanothername · 51-55, M
@SlaveEt That works of your husband or partner earns enough money to support the whole family. These days it takes the combined effort of 2 regular incomes to support a family.
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acpguy · C
@DogMan I was the same but took the long way around. Went to college in the 70's to be a teacher but was offered a job in a hospital that paid 30K vs. 13K for a teacher. Then got burned out running 4 departments then went to work as grunt on a pipeline company. They paid for my education and a lot of on the job training then after 16 years with them I started my own company. I will be retiring soon after doing my own work consulting and making over 200k per year.
DogMan · 61-69, M
@acpguy Thats the way to do it. You make yourself more valuable to your employers
by learning everything about your trade, and it gives you the experience to start your
own company. I was glad my dad was able to see how successful I became before
he passed. If you knew me when I was young, it wasn't looking good. 🤣 I still go into
the office a few hours a week, to help out. I tried to retire, but decided to ease my way
into it. I will probably sell the company to my employees one day. I will let them pay
me a nice salary for a few years.
by learning everything about your trade, and it gives you the experience to start your
own company. I was glad my dad was able to see how successful I became before
he passed. If you knew me when I was young, it wasn't looking good. 🤣 I still go into
the office a few hours a week, to help out. I tried to retire, but decided to ease my way
into it. I will probably sell the company to my employees one day. I will let them pay
me a nice salary for a few years.
iamnikki · 31-35, F
That's what I'm seeing online. I think that's a good move. Neither one of my degrees have really paid off financially. I just finished a certification in my field. Luckily for me, I didn't have to pay school, with the exception of the community college years. I got grants and scholarships so I don't owe a dime. If I DID owe money, I'd be upset right now.
So yes, Gen Z, go to trade school, unless you are wanting to become doctor, lawyer etc.
So yes, Gen Z, go to trade school, unless you are wanting to become doctor, lawyer etc.
DogMan · 61-69, M
@iamnikki That's great, debt is a killer. My parents could not afford college, so I went in
the military for 8 years. I then went into construction, started at the bottom, and learned
all the jobs, then started estimating, and project management. After about 16 years I
started my own company. Some people pigeon hole themselves, and do not learn all
the different vocations within their field, and it keeps them down. I always encourage
people to branch out as soon as they learn what they need to, than move to a different
job within their field. It always makes a person worth more to a company, even if they
do not start their own business. Never be complacent.
the military for 8 years. I then went into construction, started at the bottom, and learned
all the jobs, then started estimating, and project management. After about 16 years I
started my own company. Some people pigeon hole themselves, and do not learn all
the different vocations within their field, and it keeps them down. I always encourage
people to branch out as soon as they learn what they need to, than move to a different
job within their field. It always makes a person worth more to a company, even if they
do not start their own business. Never be complacent.
acpguy · C
They might be but the problem is they do not want to work for a living like all liberals so until they learn or change their ways no other education is going to help them. Look at the other liberal / socialist / new world order controlled countries like France / Canada / Greece / UK where they have socialized medical care, unions, short work weeks with lots of time off.
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DogMan · 61-69, M
@Justice4All Yep, the guy that started right out of high school now has 5 years of experience
and is in demand.
and is in demand.
In 1981 I got a two-year degree in Industrial electronics from a Junior college. I then worked in the electronics industry for a number of years. Later I got a 4-year degree in English Lit. An English Lit degree will not make you any money, but I didn't do it for money. I did it for me. "Man does not live by bread alone."
My father went to college on the G.I. Bill in the early 1950's after serving in the army during the Korean war era. He got a degree in accounting. He supported his family for decades after. He was the first in his family to go to college. My mother also went to college. She was smart and got straight As.
My father went to college on the G.I. Bill in the early 1950's after serving in the army during the Korean war era. He got a degree in accounting. He supported his family for decades after. He was the first in his family to go to college. My mother also went to college. She was smart and got straight As.
DogMan · 61-69, M
@badminton My dad went back to the same factory he worked at before he fought
on the front lines in Italy in WWII. He didn't make a lot of money, but we had
everything we needed.
I learned a lot from him, because he could do absolutely anything.
We never called "The guy" dad WAS the guy.
on the front lines in Italy in WWII. He didn't make a lot of money, but we had
everything we needed.
I learned a lot from him, because he could do absolutely anything.
We never called "The guy" dad WAS the guy.
Torsten · 36-40, M
@TheOneyouwerewarnedabout good
DogMan · 61-69, M
@TheOneyouwerewarnedabout The Dictator in Chief does not care what the Supreme
court, or what congress says. This shows everyone who the real Dictators are. But Democrats
will refuse to see it. They will call it Democracy.
court, or what congress says. This shows everyone who the real Dictators are. But Democrats
will refuse to see it. They will call it Democracy.
AngelofFail · 26-30, F
exchrist · 31-35
Hopefully bc the job market is saturated with college degree holders. So. . .
DogMan · 61-69, M
@exchrist Maybe, but I think it has more to do with experience. A guy that becomes a
apprentice electrician right out of high school, will make far more after 4 years,
than a college grad with a BS degree. The smart ones will learn everything about the
business, and start their own company, and make more than a doctor, and retire at 60.
apprentice electrician right out of high school, will make far more after 4 years,
than a college grad with a BS degree. The smart ones will learn everything about the
business, and start their own company, and make more than a doctor, and retire at 60.
Workerbee · 31-35, M
Better to decide earlier rather than later! Sometimes I wish I didn’t go to college tbh
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