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US foreign wars: the banality of evil.

Supported by their families at home, American soldiers have been killing people around the world since Vietnam. While their actions were evil, the servicemen themselves were quite ordinary, commonplace, and neither demonic nor monstrous. There were no sign in them of firm ideological convictions. Their immorality – their capacity, even their eagerness, to commit crimes – could be attributed to their ‘thoughtlessness’.

It is our inability to stop and think that permits Americans to participate in mass murder.
Unlearn · 41-45, M
All in the name of spreading democracy and empowering people...
Unlearn · 41-45, M
@sree251 was it too subtle for you!?
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WildWings · 61-69, M
@sree251 Well if that is true that US is not a democracy. You cannot be a democracy and fund Genocide and Ethnic Cleansing!!
WandererTony · 56-60, M
America is seen by the third world as a bully. A bully whose deeds on foreign soil are camouflaged by shrewd media control to depict them as savours of the world to their citizens back home. War, while initiated by US, was seen as a national sacrifice for humanity by its citizens.

I was too young to follow Vietnam - I read about it later - but saw US funding Iraq in the Iran Iraq war, and then strip them looking for WMD which never existed, just for the oil, while their citizens back home were convinced that Saddam was the devil incarnate.

Osama, a creation of American excesses, was terminated in Pakistan, but Pakistan was not punished for sheltering him.

They bombed the daylights out of Afganistan to take out the Taliban and handed over the nation to the Taliban finally.

But back home the soldiers are heroes. War veteran is a golden star in the family tree. And riot police suppress students in campuses in a supposed democracy.

The third world smirks. But does America care?
Never blame the actual service members.

They usually join the military with altruistic, patriotic intentions. They aren't the ones deciding upon which conflicts to engage. And they are not just physically conditioned to fight; they are mentally conditioned to do the unthinkable. They may or may not be killed or physically maimed...but they all end up suffering psychological damage. Members of the military are not the criminals...they're the victims.

The criminals are those who benefit financially from wars...the central banks that finance both sides of the conflict, the military industrial complex, and the politicians who cheer it on.
sree251 · 41-45, M
@Diotrephes [quote] Moscow or Leningrad? [/quote]

Wrong coordinates. It's not geography. It's hierarchy. I am not working class.
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HoraceGreenley · 56-60, M
You're being treated by a whole team of psychiatrists, aren't you?
Your first statement is ridiculous! You have no idea what the families of these military members felt.

Where have you served in combat and for what country?
@sree251 You missed my point. Your statement comes across as American families supporting the killing these soldiers did.
sree251 · 41-45, M
@soar2newhighs [quote] Your statement comes across as American families supporting the killing these soldiers did. [/quote]

Didn't we all support "Shock and Awe" in the bombing of Iraq? Over what?

US soldiers are all over the world in foreign bases; especially in East Asia - Japan, South Korea, Philippines - in preparation for war with China. If war breaks out, you would support the killing of 1.4 billion Chinese before they lob nuclear bombs over our cities and wipe out our national grid. With supply chains in shambles, 350 million Americans will start starving to death within a month.
@sree251 Your problem
Is you make too many assumptions.
You don’t know who supported or did not support shock and awe.
fanuc2013 · 51-55, F
US military forces have engaged with foreigners long before Viet Nam! Look back in history, this has been happening since shortly after the birth of this Nation! That's why battleships like "Old Ironsides" were built! Marines were sent into Tripoli, Nicaragua, Philippines and countless others!
AbbySvenz · F
Well, that is what the jury concluded. 🤷🏼‍♀️@sree251
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sree251 · 41-45, M
@jshm2 It's not possible to serve in a war killing people and recover to live normal lives. By normal, I mean living normally among people who are not part of a murderous culture.
trollslayer · 46-50, M
Usa has a “good guy vs bad guy” mentality that is used to justify foreign involvement. Manifest destiny on a global scale.
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sree251 · 41-45, M
@Bumbles [quote] I hardly condoning Nixon”s bombing of North Vietnam and Cambodia. [/quote]

Do you think Nixon was ordering the bombing? War fighting is in the domain of the US military. Nixon was already withdrawing US troops from Vietnam.
Bumbles · 51-55, M
@sree251 Yes, the bombing intensified to affect the peace talks in Paris that Kissinger was heading
sree251 · 41-45, M
@Bumbles Ok,Bumbles. I yield to your knowledge of that situation.
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sree251 · 41-45, M
@Richard65 There are Americans in this forum that clearly support US foreign policy and make no apologies for killing people. Was Obama stripped down by army training when he ordered the killing of Osama bin Ladin and assassination of Americans? The American public has not stopped politicians in Congress from supporting the killing in Gaza and Ukraine.

 
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