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USA: we want nothing more than peace. USA also : vetoes widely supported UN resolution to recognize Palestinian statehood a few days ago🤦‍♀️

Twelve Security Council members voted in favor of granting the Palestinians full UN member status, while just the UK and Switzerland abstained and USA vetoed it.





Ironically this is not the first time the USA vetoes Palestinian statehood it did it over and over in the decades . Let alone the mountain of UN resolutions against Israel it has vetoed.

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trollslayer · 46-50, M
Considering the USA’s success in turning Iraq and Afghanistan into Democratic Utopias, perhaps they have the right idea. Yes, that is sarcasm.
Moon3624 · 18-21, F
@trollslayer
While ur comment is funny it is unfortunately not relevant.


Palestine is literally not an existing country so I don’t see how your comment is relevant to this post.
I don’t view Israel to be a democracy.
Half of the population living on that land do not vote for the state.

Israel being the state in this reality.

It refuses to let the internationally recognized as “occupied “ people vote for the state
But at the same time refuses to let them have a functional independent state .
They’r the defranchized people in Israel
Cuz let’s admit it there is no Palestine .


Palestinians having a state means it has to pull back the illegal violent Israeli settlements it also means no more of the zionist expansion dream.
On the other hand ,
Giving everyone on the land the right to vote and making it one state , it ends up being a Jewish supremacy state.

It’s truly a delimma.


The irony is people think democratic nations are allowed to go around and commit human right violations especially stripping the right of a human being to return to the place they were ethnically cleansed from in violations of the Geneva convention.



An extra :

https://jacobin.com/2017/05/israel-palestine-democracy-apartheid-discrimination-settler-colonialism
trollslayer · 46-50, M
@Moon3624 My apologies - perhaps that was misunderstood.

I am in agreement with you here. It is illogical and simply stupid to look at Oct 7th outside of the broader conflict going back 80+ years. Much of that 80 years of conflict has to do with the Palestinian people not having their own country. And it is clear, very clear, that Israel's policy for 80+ years has been to not recognize Palestinians as a group of people that actually exists and has a right to determine their own futures. Israel has always treated Palestinians as a "nuisance", and basically has wanted them to live up to some kind of impossible standard or accept ridiculously one-sided terms before recognizing them as a "state".

Israel, and the United States, somehow feels that giving statehood to Palestinians would be some kind of "reward" for terrorism. Well, gee, that has been the attitude for 80 years, and look where that has got them? Human nature says when you oppress people (as Israel has done to Palestinians for 80 years), they become resentful and fight back by any means possible. This is not to excuse terrorism against civilians - just a fact that has been proven time and time again in history.

How do they think Palestinians will act, after you take them off their land, massacre their villages, don't allow them citizenship or rights, impose military rule over them, etc. Of course many of them will side with Hamas - "the enemy of your enemy is your friend".
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