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Renting in the UK

Labour has made it a priority to abolish "no fault" evictions from private residential accommodation when they form the next government. The Conservatives have faffed around since 2019 with a vague pledge that has amounted to nothing. Unsurprisingly, nearly a third of Tory MPs derive rental income from second homes and practically all are homeowners.

Currently someone running a vape and legal high business has more rights as a tenant than a single mother with children. Uncertainty and continuous stress is a symptom of our increasingly unequal society.
ninalanyon · 61-69, T
How does this affect people like me who rented out my house when I moved to Norway but might want to return to it? In the past if I rented it out furnished I would be able to ask my tenant to leave so that I could move back in. Will that still be the case under Labour's proposals? That is do they distinguish between what one might call professional or corporate landlords and those who are renting out simply as a temporary measure or as a way of supplementing an income in retirement?

After two years we decided to stay in Norway and that meant selling the house to raise the money to buy a house in Norway. It would have been very costly, perhaps impossible, for us if we had had to raise the money by borrowing it.

I'm not arguing that reform isn't necessary, just that quite a few landlords are not fat cat capitalists.
SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
@ninalanyon I think mainly because the few sitting tenants in the UK tend to be elderly or medically vulnerable. If you sold a house with a professional family who had paid their rent without fail for five years and had even carried out their own improvements, that might actually enhance its attractiveness to another landlord (in the same way as selling an office building occupied by a high profile tenant such as a newspaper group).
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@SunshineGirl The sub-standard homes are not only those owned by private individuals either. Some so-called "housing associations" have much to answer for.

One thing that all landlords, private or commercial, have to do is ensure properly-maintained gas and electricity appliances; but the standard of the building itself seems less important.

I think one overall effect of making it even harder for anyone to be landlords, will be even fewer homes to rent, except perhaps commercially where the homes are built for letting from the start.
SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
@ArishMell Unfortunately in recent years that has mainly been due to the effects of inflation on labour and material costs.

I personally feel that 'professional' or institutional landlords are the best guarantee of improved housing standards. But I do have a conflicting interest as my employer invests in big private rented schemes.
Sharon · F
The biggest problem I see with this legislation is that a lot of landlords will just sell up, thereby reducing the availability of homes to rent. We desperately need more social housing and affordable homes to buy.
SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
@Sharon We need more homes full stop. If landlords sell up this will relieve pressure on the rental market by increasing supply in the equally constrained owner-occupier market. But yes, it does no favours for the most vulnerable renters.
@Sharon Landlords selling up might not be such a terrible thing. At least, that way housing associations get the chance to buy back some of their old stocks to rent out again...

Older properties are also cheaper than new builds, too, so it might tempt some first time buyers to take a step onto the property ladder.
senghenydd · M
It's all very well the Welsh government has brought out a No Fault Eviction law and the House of Commons is set to follow applying to England, now lets give a thought to the Student Rental market, Universities around the country rely on the local Private Sector, Landlords within a mile of their Universities the Catchment areas rent out to Students, Universities usually build a accommodation Campus which is sufficient to house first year (Freshman Students) but haven't the capacity to house second and third year Students if the Private Sector Landlords can't evict the Students who have completed their Degrees then there won't be suitable rooms to let available within a mile of the Universities, silly government wouldn't listen, where will this government problem end?
senghenydd · M
@SunshineGirl It's more than a possibility it's starting to happen, local government will have a problem in regulating the supply of student accommodation in areas where buildings were built over a hundred years ago in established built up areas in the centre of our cities. Ha Ha Cardiff has an idea it looks like it will demolish the National Museum of Wales next to the University in the centre of Cardiff.

The student accommodation blocks are purpose built however they are too expensive for most students who prefer renting from the private sector where the rents are far cheaper, the University of South Wales insists first year students stay in their accommodation blocks unless they are mature students.

There were consultations regarding the removal of Section 21 the No Fault Evictions clause, sadly no one in government listened they have got it wrong, the students will eventually pay for the mistake which has been made around the Student catchments areas of our Universities.

I don't think you are 100% convinced I am right about this ok we'll see time will tell.
SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
@senghenydd No, I just hadn't given much thought to that aspect. Students can hugely distort the local housing markets and create dilemmas because they essentially have a positive influence on the towns where they study. Planning is a big problem because some students are wealthier than local working professionals (owing to the bank of mum and dad), while some fulltime workers would benefit from the cheaper traditional student accommodation.

In Bristol, property guardian schemes (where people occupy empty offices or similar buildings for low rents while they await redevelopment) are increasingly popular.
senghenydd · M
@SunshineGirl The Majority of Students I have met lately are from abroad, they haven't a great deal of money to spend and simply just manage their way through obtaining their degrees, most of them like living here in the UK and don't intend returning to their original countries they like our cooler climate or feel there are better advantages living in the UK.

I honestly haven't met anyone who has bought accommodation for their children studying in my locality although it does sometimes happen.

I watched a programme on the television some years ago about a Guardian scheme run by a local authority I haven't heard of any such scheme in my locality.
kutee · T
the solution is to build thousands of council houses, i live in a council house and can never get kicked out as long asi pay the rent
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@kutee This 👆
SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
@kutee Yes, but not before the Right to Buy legislation has been repealed.
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zonavar68 · 51-55, M
'No grounds' evictions are also a hot topic here in Australia. NSW currently still allows them, but regardless of which side of politics has been in power over the last 20 or so yrs nothing has happened to abolish it.
SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
@zonavar68 They've come into focus in the UK recently as buying property is out of the reach of many and the younger generation is demanding a better deal for tenants.
hunkalove · 61-69, M
Just a couple weeks ago we finally have laws about evictions. Landlords can still evict for no reason but there is a process they have to go through that gives the tenant some time to get out. Landlords can always find a reason to evict.
SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
@hunkalove Our government said that the court system would not be able to cope with the litigation. So tenants are denied justice 😟
Yes, this and rent prices needs to be controlled and new housing models need to be built. Get more third party housing groups involved like the Vienesse housing system.

Oh and insulate and soundproof the housing units.
Entwistle · 56-60, M
The Conservatives voted against a proposed law that would make it illegal to rent out homes unfit for human habitation.
Nice people huh?
sladejr · 56-60, M
@Entwistle now tell us what the law really said 🙄
MartinII · 70-79, M
Well-meaning of course, but I suspect the law of unintended consequences may apply and finding homes to rent may become more difficult and more expensive.
kutee · T
its mad, the law should have been changed years ago, teneants used to have rights
Richard65 · M
People voted Tory for the past 14 years. All this is on them.
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SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
@NativePortlander1970 The rights of tenants to live decently should always come before the rights of landlords to profit from their second homes.
@SunshineGirl At rents that are affordable.

 
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