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Satan is a liar. God loves you. He's not out to hurt you, in any way.

The Bible was not written to scare people. It was written to keep people out of hell, thus, the reason for God's mission and Plan of Salvation.

Though the Bible says hell is real and even gives a description of it, it is Satan who lies to people, telling them God wants to send people there, so they will hate God, call him a liar, and miss heaven. He's got all kinds of tricks up his sleeve.

He even makes people believe God is dead or else there is no God, because that way they won't think about preparing their soul for heaven. Satan doesn't want anybody in heaven. What he wants, is for people to believe his lies about God, so they'll end up in hell. Satan wants your company in hell, and he'll say or do anything, to get it.

Satan's goal is to convince people that God is the bad one. If he can get them to believe that lie, then he knows no one will fear going to hell. Satan lied. Jesus didn't come to threaten us with hell nor to send even one of us there. That's another lie of the devil. He tells people that God wants to put the fear in us. The truth is, Jesus' mission had to do with coming to warn the world that our souls are in danger, not to condemn us. He came to give us his Plan of Salvation, so we wouldn't have to miss heaven. Not one of us!

If Satan and hell were not real, Jesus would not have bothered. We never have to fear God. When the Bible talks about fear concerning God, it is speaking of showing him the respect he deserves, the reverence he deserves.

Jesus was so sad about losing souls, he took that extra measure and died on the cross to save us from hell, not place us there. He didn't have to do that, but he did. In fact, he volunteered to pay for our sins, so there was no way we could miss heaven.

God is perfect, incapable of lying and incapable of error. Satan wants all the souls he can get because he hates God. If he had repented, God would have forgiven him, but he is evil personified and he does not want to be saved. Does Jeremiah 29:11 sound like God is out to hurt us? If he was out to hurt us, he would not have given his life to save us.


Dv8rs · 18-21, F
Remember your scriptures LadyGrace, and correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't God kill his own son, and cooks sinners for an eternity in a lake of burning Sulfur? This is the God who would never hurt you in any way? Faith is a many splendid thing.
LadyGrace · 70-79
@MartinTheFirst honey that is not what the Bible says. Read it again please. God's word says that hell is a place of torment and gnashing of teeth. Read Matthew 8:12. That is because they will be sorry that they made fun of God and laughed at him and mocked him and didn't listen to him when he tried to save them. God wants us to see the seriousness of a literal place and that's why he got so descriptive, so that we could see the seriousness of our situation and not miss heaven. It is a literal place because our souls never die and scripture says that. So it is our soul that suffers and goes to hell because of our choice and that doesn't have to be. Not ONE of us need miss heaven, if we will trust God that he wants to help us, that he wants to only love us and keep us from hell. He proved that on the cross! Don't say there's no hell because that will have made God's death, in vain, and we all know that it was not.
MartinTheFirst · 26-30, M
@LadyGrace
Don't say there's no hell because that will have made God's death, in vain, and we all know that it was not.

If death is a place where you have no power or thoughts or plans... then how can "God" have died and then resurrected himself? Think about that for a moment.
LadyGrace · 70-79
@MartinTheFirst
If death is a place where you have no power or thoughts or plans... then how can "God" have died and then resurrected himself? Think about that for a moment.

Because our spirit Never Dies. It says so in God's word. Our body dies and goes into the grave until the resurrection, however believer's soul goes immediately into the presence of god, into the father's hands. That's why the New Testament says that to be away from the body is to be at home with the Lord. 2 Corinthians 5:8. Whatever happens to your body, your spirit is safe with God the Father. Unbelievers go to a place called Hades, a compartment in hell, which is the temporary waiting place of the unsaved dead. Luke 16:23 to 24 says, in Hades, the rich man lifted up his eyes, being in torment, and saw Abraham far away and Lazarus in his bosom. This is a person who cursed and laughed at God mind you. He found out what happens because God will not be mocked. And the rich man cried out and said, father abraham, have mercy on me and send lazarus, so that he may dip the tip of his finger in water and cool off my tongue, for I am in agony in this flame. This tells us why it is important to plan for eternity now and not wait.

So when the unbeliever dies, Hades is the temporary waiting place he goes to for the unsaved dead. It is a place of Torment that begins the moment and unbeliever dies. That is where the unbelievers go right now, but that is not their final destination. Their final destination is the Lake of Fire which is described in Revelation 20:12-15, where John said, I saw the dead, the Great and the small, standing before the throne, and the books were opened and another book was opened which is The Book of Life and the dead were judged from the things which were written in the books, and he doesn't go into great detail about the next part that was not for us to know or he would have told us. When we die we'll find out all that stuff. Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire. And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the Lake of Fire. And don't get that mixed up. God gave them more than enough time to repent and the Bible says they have no excuse! And because they mocked to God and said there was no God, and refused God's way of escape from hell, that's where they ended up. People who do that will not be laughing, then. This was not a game to God. He gave his very life for us, died for us! And he even didn't do it for himself. He did it strictly for us! It was US he had on his mind that day as he hung beaten and bloody and tortured, to where his skin was literally hanging off of him from the cat of nine tails, and his whole back and body from head to toe, laid open from the ripping of his skin where the whip with the lead ends, literally slashed him to pieces to where his organs were literally hanging out. No, this was no joke! And any minister who does not preach that and belittles that and does not even recognize that, is no minister.
Axelerator · 31-35, M
So first off, god is the one sending people to hell, to burn in agony forever, so Satans telling the truth there.

The truth is that god is perfectly fine with hurting or killing anyone.
If there is love here, then it’s a messed up sadistic kind, which I’m not a fan of.
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LadyGrace · 70-79
@Ferise1 Yes it would sound like nonsense to people who don't know the Word. And by the way, I'm going to ask you to leave this post because I know for a fact that your goal is to do nothing but argue with people. I happen to see that in your profile. You enjoy a good strong argument to stir things up and that's all you're interested in, but I hate to tell you, I'm not buying your crap. The next time that you come on one of my posts, rest assured that Administration will know. You're nothing but a whiny baby who hasn't grown up yet. Such an immature baby, you have to resort to vomiting kindergarten phrases and curse words from that ugly mouth of yours. You've been warned.
LadyGrace · 70-79
@Ferise1 that's how stupid you sound, not me.
Lostpoet · M
i believe in Jesus with all my heart it's all the other prophesiers and followers of his that came after him that makes me question my faith in Christianity.
LadyGrace · 70-79
@Lostpoet that's probably because some tell the truth and some don't. Jesus said there are false prophets and teachers everywhere. That's just a given in this world, but I hope you won't make the mistake in thinking that some who pretend to be followers of Christ, yet do not act like it or speak like it, include every follower of Christ. Denominations and religions have nothing to do with salvation. Jesus died for all as I'm sure you know. He died for all of us, not just for some, or certain denominations. He died for the world. He doesn't even like religion because that causes separation. Religion is described as man-made philosophy. Religion didn't die on the cross to save us from our sins, Jesus did. There are Hypocrites in every phase of life. Not just in some Churches and those who want us to believe they are followers of Christ. Jesus said there would be phonies, so it's no surprise. But it is God who knows the real ones. It is God who knows their hearts and he can't be fooled. Nobody said Christians were perfect. But we can share strive to be what God wants us to be and if we're honest, there's always room for improvement.
Dv8rs · 18-21, F
It's better to be kind, than it is to be right.

Anne Lamott
LadyGrace · 70-79
@Dv8rs You got that right. And that door swings both ways.

 
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