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twistermind · 51-55, F
@karinaal: Interesting, the reasearch you mention.
Not sure if I'm an atheist now. Lately, I was comparing how people who believe in god lived their lives and face to difficulties with an extra strength I can't find in myself.
Suddenly, I discovered myself some weeks ago praying. It was more my desperation, my need to have an extra strength than faith. I lost it many years ago. So, yes...I was there praying like a kid when crying and asking for something to their parents.
I know it's very human. A long the History, this is what explain trascendental beliefs. To avoid loliness. Because, the man feels alone
I always was wondered by the fact that some believers go beyond that. They accept with generosity and embrace what life offers them. Some call it, resignation, Psychology call it resilience.
I called it madurity. Perhaps, I wasn't very luckily using this term.
Not sure if I'm an atheist now. Lately, I was comparing how people who believe in god lived their lives and face to difficulties with an extra strength I can't find in myself.
Suddenly, I discovered myself some weeks ago praying. It was more my desperation, my need to have an extra strength than faith. I lost it many years ago. So, yes...I was there praying like a kid when crying and asking for something to their parents.
I know it's very human. A long the History, this is what explain trascendental beliefs. To avoid loliness. Because, the man feels alone
I always was wondered by the fact that some believers go beyond that. They accept with generosity and embrace what life offers them. Some call it, resignation, Psychology call it resilience.
I called it madurity. Perhaps, I wasn't very luckily using this term.
karinaal · 70-79, F
To me it does not sound as if you are an atheist or anything near to that.
Nor does it sound as if you have lost your faith.
To me it sounds as if you have just found out that without doubt there cannot really be any faith just as there without faith can be no doubt.
It is a matter of believing without having scientific proof. If I had the scientific proof I would not believe but know.
It is easy to make fun of faith; Darwin has explained about evolution, every doctor can tell you that Jesus could not die on the cross and then several days later stand up from the grave and walk around and today every schoolkid can tell you that Mary could not possibly have been a virgin.
So we cannot believe in what the Bible tells us but it does not change that in the Christian creed we Christians all claim to believe in the almighty God who created heaven and earth.
I have no problems with believing that an almighty God who created heaven and earth was also perfectly capable of arranging the sweet little Christmas story with Mary becoming pregnant without getting assistance from a man. It is against logic, against all that science can explain and so what?
Does it really matter how the almighty God did the things that seem irrational and that science cannot explain or is it not just an incredible human naivety and vanity to believe that we should be able to understand and explain how an almighty God did whatever he did?
Many people have no problems with believing in the most obscure superstitions or crazy conspiracy theories and just as crazy and unreliable “news stories” found on the darkest parts of the Internet and then it does not matter that there is no ratio behind it and no scientific or other proof at all.
It seems as if we all need something to believe in, to trust in and to cling on to when we are in those deep crises when there is no true or false, no correct answer and no ratio but only helplessness and vulnerability.
This need for something to believe in and trust and also rely on as a kind of parental authority is perhaps sign of humanity's inherent and inescapable immaturity and childishness. If so it would explain why it comes so easy for us in moments of despair to pray to a heavenly paternal authority. At least I find it comforting and reassuring to do so and even those who do not believe in any almighty divine power must admit that mentally and emotionally this is healthy, soothing and calming.
Nor does it sound as if you have lost your faith.
To me it sounds as if you have just found out that without doubt there cannot really be any faith just as there without faith can be no doubt.
It is a matter of believing without having scientific proof. If I had the scientific proof I would not believe but know.
It is easy to make fun of faith; Darwin has explained about evolution, every doctor can tell you that Jesus could not die on the cross and then several days later stand up from the grave and walk around and today every schoolkid can tell you that Mary could not possibly have been a virgin.
So we cannot believe in what the Bible tells us but it does not change that in the Christian creed we Christians all claim to believe in the almighty God who created heaven and earth.
I have no problems with believing that an almighty God who created heaven and earth was also perfectly capable of arranging the sweet little Christmas story with Mary becoming pregnant without getting assistance from a man. It is against logic, against all that science can explain and so what?
Does it really matter how the almighty God did the things that seem irrational and that science cannot explain or is it not just an incredible human naivety and vanity to believe that we should be able to understand and explain how an almighty God did whatever he did?
Many people have no problems with believing in the most obscure superstitions or crazy conspiracy theories and just as crazy and unreliable “news stories” found on the darkest parts of the Internet and then it does not matter that there is no ratio behind it and no scientific or other proof at all.
It seems as if we all need something to believe in, to trust in and to cling on to when we are in those deep crises when there is no true or false, no correct answer and no ratio but only helplessness and vulnerability.
This need for something to believe in and trust and also rely on as a kind of parental authority is perhaps sign of humanity's inherent and inescapable immaturity and childishness. If so it would explain why it comes so easy for us in moments of despair to pray to a heavenly paternal authority. At least I find it comforting and reassuring to do so and even those who do not believe in any almighty divine power must admit that mentally and emotionally this is healthy, soothing and calming.
twistermind · 51-55, F
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Invisible · 26-30, M
At least we know that suffering is not evidence of wrongdoing :)
