Do you think feminism is responsible for the decreasing interest in marriage?
There's this study that said 25% of millennial men will be single in their 50s and a larger number currently have little to no interest in getting marred
22-25, M
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Picklebobble · 56-60, M
Nothing to do with femenism. It's a sociological issue.
More to do with practicalities of life I would have thought !
The way we live our lives is stupid !
Time was when everybody worked Monday to Friday. 8-5. Hour off for lunch. Week-ends at home with the family.
Chances are you probably met somebody through work or family. Spent time getting to really know them (usually referred to as courting) then married them in your late 20's etc.
But we've been conditioned by government to have ideals. Goals. Certain landmarks in life that we're supposed to hit ! Steady job; marriage; 2.4 children; steady promotion; buy your own home; blah blah blah..
Unfortunately, the nature of work has changed and consumed us !
Gone are the days of working your way through company hierarchy. These days it's grab what you can before the company folds !
Companies have no interest in their employees other than to make sure there's a steady turnover of them.
Pay is at it's lowest for thirty years. Temporary jobs outnumber permenant jobs 4-1.
And gone are the jobs for life !
Mining; engineering; teaching; manufactuing; etc all replaced with call centres; online virtual shopping and endless employment agencies because cmpanies can't even be bothered to hire their own staff !!!!
This leads to less being saved for retirement. Less being spent on luxuries. Car; holiday; home improvement etc.
If all THAT didnt kill the desire for marriage. The fact that the 'age of automation' that was promised us back in the '60's. never materialised !
The fact that rents and house prices have gotten SO out of control no one can be assured of actually being ABLE to pay off their mortgage anymore ?
And the sad sorry fact that governments since. The '70's have screwed around with pension provision so that we now have to work longer than EVER just to cover living expense. You can see why marriage isn't likely to be popular again any time soon.
More to do with practicalities of life I would have thought !
The way we live our lives is stupid !
Time was when everybody worked Monday to Friday. 8-5. Hour off for lunch. Week-ends at home with the family.
Chances are you probably met somebody through work or family. Spent time getting to really know them (usually referred to as courting) then married them in your late 20's etc.
But we've been conditioned by government to have ideals. Goals. Certain landmarks in life that we're supposed to hit ! Steady job; marriage; 2.4 children; steady promotion; buy your own home; blah blah blah..
Unfortunately, the nature of work has changed and consumed us !
Gone are the days of working your way through company hierarchy. These days it's grab what you can before the company folds !
Companies have no interest in their employees other than to make sure there's a steady turnover of them.
Pay is at it's lowest for thirty years. Temporary jobs outnumber permenant jobs 4-1.
And gone are the jobs for life !
Mining; engineering; teaching; manufactuing; etc all replaced with call centres; online virtual shopping and endless employment agencies because cmpanies can't even be bothered to hire their own staff !!!!
This leads to less being saved for retirement. Less being spent on luxuries. Car; holiday; home improvement etc.
If all THAT didnt kill the desire for marriage. The fact that the 'age of automation' that was promised us back in the '60's. never materialised !
The fact that rents and house prices have gotten SO out of control no one can be assured of actually being ABLE to pay off their mortgage anymore ?
And the sad sorry fact that governments since. The '70's have screwed around with pension provision so that we now have to work longer than EVER just to cover living expense. You can see why marriage isn't likely to be popular again any time soon.
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Carissimi · 70-79, F
@Picklebobble: The so called "American Dream" is hogwash. I was fortunate for a while in that I did manage to buy my dream home, but now that's gone, and I don't even have health care, but I'm fortunate to have a car.
Those who actually achieve the American Dream can lose it at any time. Here today and gone tomorrow.
I'm just thankful for what I do have, but I understand your thinking about finding a partner, although they say there is someone for everyone. It does seem unfair for many people.
Those who actually achieve the American Dream can lose it at any time. Here today and gone tomorrow.
I'm just thankful for what I do have, but I understand your thinking about finding a partner, although they say there is someone for everyone. It does seem unfair for many people.
Picklebobble · 56-60, M
@Carissimi: I feel for you. I really do !! The U.S. healthcare thing is totally at odd with the U.S. land of the free ideal !!
The number of insurance carriers alone ought to necessitate sponsored hospitals and doctors !
I mean, why put money in the pocket of a middle man if they don't give you what you need ?
It's ridiculous.!
The number of insurance carriers alone ought to necessitate sponsored hospitals and doctors !
I mean, why put money in the pocket of a middle man if they don't give you what you need ?
It's ridiculous.!
Coppercoil · M
Coppercoil · M
It's a mix.. easy to blame the most blatant purist third wave feminists that stick out so prominently. But really it's all related to pop culture, radical college professors telling everyone how they are wrong and bad all the time, men and women wanting to stay *young* and care reel longer and maturing later in life, the Internet making hookups so easy and each other so easy to replace, the constant pressure that the world is going to pop if we have too many kids, the endless economic slide where typically both partners have to work to support a family and it's hard to get good paying jobs till much later in life, and on and on and on.
This culture is becoming like a drug people do just because it's easy and feels good, seems normal to the younger generations, and everyone else is doing it, but few have the courage to question it, and even fewer still will have the courage to stand in opposition against it.
This culture is becoming like a drug people do just because it's easy and feels good, seems normal to the younger generations, and everyone else is doing it, but few have the courage to question it, and even fewer still will have the courage to stand in opposition against it.
bijouxbroussard · F
rickfreeman15 · 22-25, M
If it were about equal rights, shouldn't it be called egalitarianism? Modern/3rd wave feminism gives the impression that men aren't needed and that society is still against them which isn't true. Most of the aims of the original feminist movement have been achieved in 1st world countries like the US
AmbivalentFriability · 26-30
@rickfreeman15: Feminism focuses on the rights of women, but it in no way is meant to take away from anyone else's. Similarly to how Black Lives Matter focuses on black people, but obviously doesn't mean to imply that white people's lives don't matter. They want their lives to be accepted [i]as equal[/i] to that of a white person.
MasterLee · 56-60, M
@AmbivalentFriability: blink
LovelyGorilla · 22-25, F
TwiddlerofThumbs · F
ButterRobot · 51-55, M
SW-User
Uh what????
MartinTheFirst · 22-25, M
Just selfishness... People want what they want, but when they dont want and someone wants from them, they feel like they can leave with the excuse "he/she wasnt the right guy/girl, he/she didnt make me feel"