Do you feel that atheism falls into the category of a religion? If yes, please explain. [Spirituality & Religion]

What would you consider sufficient evidence for the existence of God?

@Motherfuckerjones: I wonder who you are talking to?

@Firechidist:

If he made himself known to me. If he spoke to me. Gave me signs or miracles like he did for so many in the bible.

If there was anything that showed prayer to be effective for anything at all.

I have given you two very clear examples of design - the presence of vast amounts of information and fine tuning. But the problem is you cannot seem to grasp how complex the issue is and keep making simplistic arguments. Sorry! @UnparalleledMonster:

@jennypenny:

Yes. And i gave you an explanation for information which you denied but didn't refute and i explained why "fine tuning"is an illusion.
Which again, you denied but didn't refute.

Dang. I really thought you had more to offer than that.
Talk about simplistic lol
But if that WAS your best shot then i guess we are done here after all.

Catch you next time

No scientist who is facing the real issues involved calls fine tuning an illusion. Frankly to say it is an illusion just shows your own lack of understanding of what it is all about. Sorry! No point in continuing when you dismiss the issues with facile statements. @UnparalleledMonster:

@hippyjoe1955:

Well yes...but the fundamental thing you agree on is that there is a god, probably a personal god who created the universe and everything in it, yes?
And i imagine you both pray to that god.

Essentially you're pointing out that your religion is different from a slightly different religion and that somehow it follows then that world views like atheism can be a religion?
My apologies if i have misrepresented what you said.

What I believe is that there is more to existence than our material beings. As a former design engineer having spent countless hours designing simple processes I honestly can not understand how people can believe that random chance caused life to exist. The intricate inter-workings of systems in even the most basic life forms simply rules that possibility of that happening. Some call that the 'god of the gaps' I call it the only logical conclusion. If you see design and function in everything around you there is likely a Designer behind it all.

@hippyjoe1955:

Well i guess we're done with the other subject then.
I can't speak to your perception that the functionality of life indicates a design and a designer.

@StephenJ620:

I have no problem with you having a dissenting opinion. I do expect you to be able to defend it and thus far i am unconvinced by the reasoning you have presented.

But given that you've devoted most of your post to criticizing atheists i shall assume that you've finished trying to defend your position.

Let's summarize: you care enough to continue posting for an hour, petty or not. And i am open to being convinced, you simply failed.

But you linked me to the basis for your opinion and i din't find it very compelling either for reasons i explained.

I got exactly what i was expecting. I'm sorry you get your back up when you are challenged.
Note for the future: if you enter one of my threads, expect to defend your position.

I don't know what you mean by "going beyond my means". I think all i've done is ask you to explain how atheism is a religion and point out where your explanation doesn't fit with the definitions of either atheism or religion.

I'm also enjoying the irony of your apparent continuing concern with pettiness while you continue to pepper your posts with puerile insults. lol

But if you're just going to keep being upset that you were asked to debate then i think we're done here.

Be ready next time😉

Atheism is a faith with absolutely no evidence whatsoever! @UnparalleledMonster:

@jennypenny:

No. It's a belief that arises from a lack of evidence to the contrary.
Atheists don't claim to KNOW that god does not exist. Well not the honest ones, anyway. Atheists hold the provisional belief that god does not exist because there is no compelling reason to believe he does

The reason is most of them have never examined the evidence. @UnparalleledMonster:

i think that tends to be part of it, yeah

lol maybe

@UnparalleledMonster: @UnparalleledMonster: facepalm

@Dichotomy: another fashion statement

yes it is a belief

lol so hostile. But you're entitled to your opinion i suppose.

That doesn't come over to me but he is just very ill informed about what really issues are

@MartinTheFirst:

Well that's fairly inaccurate description of atheists.
What do atheists believe they are superior to? Not god because god doesn't exist.
Atheists do not live for themselves any more than a christian does. Trying to reduce it by saying living for another atheist doesn't count because they're an atheist is silly. Especially given that atheists also "live for" people of faith.

And while Buddhism doesn't involve a god it certainly involves specific supernatural beliefs and activities associated with the religion.

The only thing that makes an atheist an atheist is that they do not believe in god/gods

@UnparalleledMonster: We live for God.

@MartinTheFirst:

ok...cool