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Common misconceptions with Christianity [Spirituality & Religion]

1. if God is good, why do bad things happen in the world?
God made us with free will. Evil is simply anything that isn't what God is (love). We chose to see and live in evil (when Adam and eve had the apple) and that separated us from God because God cant live in evil (with the devil).
2. Why does the bible tell you what to do if God believes in free will?
The bible is just guidelines of what to do to help you in avoiding hurt or evil.
3. But how was God made?
He is eternal. He has always been there. It's beyond our scientific knowledge.
My belief comes from the miracles I've seen and the prophecies the bible has given that have come true. I can't explain the feeling when I feel connected with God but it's amazing.
If you have any more questions feel free to ask me:) Im not shoving this down your throats, because you had a choice to read, so please don't hate
Itsprincess · 22-25, F
@mic11 it's not punishment. It's the inevitable because we chose to see evil. Adam and Eve represent all of us and what all of us would have done. All of humanity was wiped by the ark because most humans had turned into pure evil (Except for the ones saved). Like I said, it isn't a punishment. Eternal suffering is what people get if they choose to live in evil and want to follow the devil. The devil made if so that someone burns in hell, not God. Christianity has been here for as long as we remember. The bible said there will be false gods. Just my opinion you don't have to take it. But science is barely advanced, we still know barely nothing to what we could know, so to rely on science (which is again, man made) doesn't seem logical to me. I don't see protons or neutrons, but we believe
FORMERLYbatovn · 56-60, M
you cannnot have good without bad......EVERYTHING has an opposite in this life. Somethings are not for us to understand. Just as when you are a child your parents dont explain all of the family business to you, you dont understand it. Its only as you grow and learn and realize what its all about that you begin to have some knowledge. The Bible is the inspired word of God, written down for us to have to reprove, share Gods love and mercy to the world. YES, it was written by humans, but under incredibly tedious supervision. Is there a word or several that are misused, maybe, maybe not, BUT the message that God intended is still there. Righteousness is foolishness to those who chose not to believe. Understand, if you cannot read and understand music, that doesnt make it any less real, or valid. Not understanding who God is doesnt disprove anything. I also will tell you that NOBODY here will have their convictions changed by a few posts or stories on a social website.......i am not trying to start an argument, just pointing out some basic facts that nobody here has the knowledge to disprove. We can disagree and thats fine.......thats your call but God is real and He is moving in life and even though things seem outta control, He is still on His thrown
FORMERLYbatovn · 56-60, M
Sin came into the world because of Satan and his influence over Adam and Eve. The stories of the Isrealites destroying towns and such, were victories given by Gods grace to people who were hostile towards them and towards God. Yes people suffer and get ill and die and all of that. BUT, it happens to Christians and Jews and Hindus and athiests and everyone else. All of that is the result of mans fall. You can argue the violence in many instances is from one religion or another, and youre correct. The point here is that Just because man ignores what God says and does what he wants instead, doesnt make God the bad guy, anymore then your kid hitting a pedestrian with his car should send you to jail. I understand that society and Hollywood and so many other influences have desensitized us to many things, but the truth of the matter is, Im gonna live for God, just as others will and many others wont, its a choice its a decision that we all face. I hope that we can still agree to disagree and realize that we dont have to "win" the argument. because its not ours to win in the first place
mic11225 · 26-30, M
1.) Who created evil? Why are we being punished for what adam and eve did exactly? How is god love when he has been shown to have the very traits he condemns in the bible. Was he loving when he wiped out a whole town or wiped out all of humanity, or when he decided to punish everyone just because some people who have been dead for millennia disobeyed him, when by the way he gave them the choice to disobey him.

2.) What if people are hurt because they follow the bible?(btw there are people who do) If god wants you to do what he says and will punish you with eternal suffering if you don't do it, why give you the option to reject him in the first place? It's warped if you think about it.

3.)You don't know if god is eternal and it would be impossible to know such a thing. And just as god does not need an intelligent creator to justify it's existence neither do we.

My lack of belief comes from contradictions and unanswered/poorly explained answers to questions i have about that faith or any faith really, advancements in science, and just the fact that in the past every culture coincidentally has a god or gods that explains their worlds and that their gods must be the only ones that are real and the others are just fabrications. Prophecies prove nothing, and your subjective connection to "God" proves nothing, though if it feels amazing for you that is good for you. I don't hate you and I'm not shoving this down your throat either.
mic11225 · 26-30, M
@Istprincess So by inevitable you mean god knows I would eat the apple? Or he knew that adam and eve would eat the apple? Either way if he did then we don't really have free will so it's not really a choice. The bible saying there will be false gods does not mean anything. Christianity is not as old as recorded history. I know i don't have to take your opinion, i'm just saying why i don't. Our science is advanced enough to where we know that things like noah's ark is impossible, and that how the bible explains the creation of everything we know is incorrect. You can personally believe that those things did happen and god just used magic or whatever but i think you are just grasping at straws if you do that. Science is man made but that doesn't mean it's not true. Just because he came up with the concept of math doesn't mean mathematics equations aren't true. 1 + 1 = 2 no matter what names we give them. Protons and neutrons can be seen. We have technology for that now. Don't get me wrong, there's alot of theoretical science that people just blindly believe because it's scientific but there's plenty of factual data that contradicts the bible.
AngelKrish · 26-30, M
Goodnight friends.. Have a super duper nice day....;)
Itsprincess and who other gave good explanations.
Itsprincess · 22-25, F
@shivam goodnight and have a good day too😄
FORMERLYbatovn · 56-60, M
AGAIN sir, your confusing Gods knowledge with a choice WE make.....thats apples to oranges thinking!! God may know the things that i will have to chose throughout my life....but i dont.........again, as i stated, im not gonna change your mind and youre certainly not gonna change mine.....good evening sir...
mic11225 · 26-30, M
@Batovn if god knows what we are going to do before we do it then there was no choice, because that implies that everything that we have done and will do has already been decided. There's just no arguing that. When did I say man has all knowledge on the origins of man? And you don't need to know everything to know the origin of humans, that's just putting words in my mouth. If you are referring to me saying we have enough data to know the bible is wrong that's not the same as knowing the origin of man. Knowing something is wrong isn't the same as knowing the right answer. "Scientists have agreed that creationism makes the most sense" is vague as shit, unlikely and even if "scientists" (whoever that is) did, that would not prove anything.
Itsprincess · 22-25, F
@sterling one was that me and a group of friends were worshipping and gold dust fell onto all of us in the kitchen. Another is that this man in the crowd had a disability and his arm was metal and someone prayed for him and the metal started to drip and then he could move his arm properly.
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@Itsprincess I know they don't do that for no reason. The idea of a higher power and religion in general has been used to manipulate masses and gain power. So there's your reason. We're not all evil, but we are capable of it. That's enough to be a bit concerning for me.
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I agnostic. I'm neutral because I understand that we cannot say god doesn't exist, so it's possible I suppose, but at the same time I feel as though it's kind of silly to jump on board with something that doesn't have any proof either.
FORMERLYbatovn · 56-60, M
@mic God DID know they would eat it, but they had the choice. your comparing free will to Gods infinite knowledge. Then in the next sentence youre saying man has all knowledge of the origins of man. in order to say that, youve got to have all knowledge, and we dont. If you then say we DONT have all knowledge, then youre saying that you cannot for certain say that God doesnt exist....your scientific arguments cannot be completely proven either. In recent years many well known scientists have come out and agreed that creationism makes the most sense. I would suggest viewing some interviews with Dr Ken Ham about the subject.
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@Shivam Oh, and I'll answer the question of why I always need proof. What can be proven helps us separate reality from our own perception. A very important distinction to make.
Itsprincess · 22-25, F
@dainbramage it wasn't pestering, it was helping. Everything he does is out of love so it's not about his own agenda, he wants people to live in love but not once has he forced someone
Itsprincess · 22-25, F
@supercute excuses to continue shutting down half the brain? Do you not believe that science and religion can work perfectly fine together?
Itsprincess · 22-25, F
@sterling understandable. I just think that God works through them. He can work through all of us, and somebody needed to pass the message to us
Itsprincess · 22-25, F
@sterling i understand that. I could tell you were agnostic because you don't come across like you hate me lol. You're really nice so keep doing you:)
Itsprincess · 22-25, F
@mic11 I feel like my whole response would be me repeating myself because it feels like the same questions. I'm sorry but I dont wanna argue. Have a nice dayy:)
Itsprincess · 22-25, F
@sterling I know, but humans don't just lie and deceive for no reason. No he gets to us through the holy spirit and not all of us are evil.
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http://biblereasons.com/animal-cruelty/ Beg to differ. The animals had to eat each other to survive. There is nothing to justify drowning millions of animals because of what humans have done. You have completely avoided the immorality of God's actions. Humans are put in jail as animal abusers if we drown animals...plain and simple. We don't plead in front of some judge that there is some "higher purpose" for it either unless we are sick in the head.

"The Lord saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every intention of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. 6 And the Lord regretted that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him to his heart. 7 So the Lord said, “I will blot out man whom I have created from the face of the land, man and animals and creeping things and birds of the heavens, for I am sorry that I have made them.” 8 But Noah found favor in the eyes of the Lord."

Sorry, the verse clearly says he regretted making the animals. I get so tired of Christians justifying God's immoral sick actions in the Bible.
FORMERLYbatovn · 56-60, M
AMEN little sister!!!!! i could not agree with you more!!!
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@Itsprincess But you know that human beings are capable of lies and deceit, right? It's kind of scary to think that's the vassal he would use to communicate with us. I mean really? Human beings are his choice? The very things capable of the deepest evils and corruptions we know? We're supposed to trust that?
Itsprincess · 22-25, F
@supercute I disagree. Have a nice day
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I'm interested in those miracles.
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Itsprincess · 22-25, F
@hockeyfan3 http://biblicalworldviewacademy.org/if-god-knows-the-future-how-can-he-feel-regret-part-1/ (God never said he regretted making animals, and animals kill each other, so aren't technically 'innocent'. They don't have souls/feelings, so can't be called innocent. It was never out of rage, it was because 'the earth was filled with violence through them' (the people living on earth). They were bad people, killing each other. Of course there is no geological evidence, it was a flood that occurred such a long time ago. As soon as human beings have future knowledge about sin, they would sin, because they've been exposed to it.
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One doesn't have to know everything in order to solve the nature of reality. One just has to know the rules and then follow through with given onuses. I give up on you people. Have a nice day and enjoy the fantasy.
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Those are the standard explanations alright- but there's nothing to back them up. They are not reasoned; just bullet dodging; excuses to continue shutting down half the brain.
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The other ridiculous thing about the Flood story is that God did the flood full well knowing people would "sin" again after the flood. It's like he supposedly did a "reset" and then lo and behold there goes people sinning again which of course through omniscience he should have known would happen AGAIN. The story is preposterous on so many levels. We have bone fragments of human like ancestors dating back almost 3 million years, our earliest precursors to humans and you don't think there could be geologic evidence of the world covered in water??
AngelKrish · 26-30, M
Why always ask for proof...itsprincess gave good explanation already from bible..
Understand our science is still have small approaches..
:)
Itsprincess · 22-25, F
@supercute yes, because we do not know everything! Reasoning is what we use with the little scientific knowledge we have at the moment
Itsprincess · 22-25, F
@supercute there's nothing to disprove them either. I was just answering the questions I've heard from people
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Any reason why God drowned innocent animals in a fit of rage in the so-called global flood which there is no geological evidence that water around the globe was up to mountaintops? BTW, the Bible passages says that God regretted he made the animals. How does an all knowing being have regret if it can see the future? If humans were able to have future knowledge of actions that would cause them regret, why in the world would they ultimately perform those actions? Reference Genesis Chapter 6 verses 5-8.
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I honestly don't trust the bible because it's manmade. If there is a god, I doubt that's his work.
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@something-

I'll thank you to not try and convince others of something that never did happen. That's despicable.

I never used the word stupid. God cannot be believed in for long without shutting down the reasoning processes. Is it stupid to do this? It's no more stupid than closing the mind to the possibility of eternal life. The balanced mind will seek a wholly natural explanation for eternal life- accessing the reasonable AND the desirable at the same time.
Dainbramadge · 56-60, M
In the Bible God isn't exactly all loving and caring. He kind of has his own agenda and pretty much has his way when ever and where ever. I think that is a better lesson than love thy neighbor. God makes your life a bit more in your control. Yeah bad things happen but that stuff happens all the time any way. Look at lott's wife. Lott never got an I'm sorry from God. Nope ... God went on to pester Abraham.
AngelKrish · 26-30, M
Ohh let me sleep yaar we will do tons of discussion on this tomorrow good night...bubbyee ;)
Dainbramadge · 56-60, M
Well the Bible was meant as a guide not to be studied and lived to word by word. It was only meant to inspire. And he seriously messed with Abraham. Just my interpretation I guess. I mean really In the beginning of the Bible God kind of flexes his God like power. He wants people to choose to love him . Not love him for free stuff or out of fear.
AngelKrish · 26-30, M
Miracles happens which make usto believe in god
AngelKrish · 26-30, M
I agree with itsprincess :)
Itsprincess · 22-25, F
@batovn agreed:)
Dainbramadge · 56-60, M
@ Mic11225 .... God doesn't know what every person is going to do all the time. We do have free will. We don't have to believe in him. He wants us to choose to love him even though there are lots of people who claim to have proof God didn't exist.
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Thanks for writing this :)
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hey I also believe in god coz I am not cool and not following the scientific bible which also changes every year saying my bad what we said before was kinda wrong NOW we hope we are right this time so pass on THEE HOLY SUPER COOL NEWS...btw mars have water and..........!
Itsprincess · 22-25, F
@batovn nice:) @1957 :)
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Actually, the disproof is strong and elegant. Belief that the nature of our reality is unsolvable is the big misconception. I shouldn't have said anything. Carry on!
Dainbramadge · 56-60, M
God doesn't want mindless zombies to love him. He want free will to be apart of it and have us choose to love him despite all the outside influences we face each day.

 
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