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Why is Britain going for 'Hard-Brexit?'

The public vote for suicide. Our Government decide that it needs to hurt as much as possible.
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Burnley123 · 41-45, M
Little miss, that gets you best answer. if there was another higher grade (like absolutely mother-f***ing perfect answer) you would have received that instead. Have some useless SW tokens and enjoy. ;-)
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Paliglass · 41-45, F
@SarahD: world's always been this way. The chiefs eat the leg meat and the poor get the grissel from the ball sack.

Paliglass · 41-45, F
I voted Brexit not because I'm stupid and hate immigration, I think everyone should be able to go where they want. I voted Brexit because 1. Due to the general hatred of Britain by European nations the Spanish can fish in our sea but we can't fish in theirs which resulted in the complete destruction of the British fishing industry - that is actually my sole reason (haha 🐠 sole) but there's many other valid reasons however I decided about 10 years ago if I ever got a say in leaving Europe I'd vote out purely based on this as it's bs and the general way we get shafted by Europe. Fingers crossed we also get NZ butter back without a high tax imposed by Europe for buying outside the EU and I will be able to by Epsom salts to put in my bath whenever I want because Europe won't be able to randomly ban them for months for no f'in reason. F Europe and yay for free trade.
Paliglass · 41-45, F
@dunpender: it's not our problem they have no fishing. They need to stay out of our waters. I watched a documentary on how the fishing industry and how the UK fishing industry was destroyed by European laws and allowing them in our seas. I don't care if its English or Scottish until Scotland gets independence.
Paliglass · 41-45, F
@dunpender: I decided 10 years ago in anger, the chance arose, clearly I stay angry a long time and I took my chance as I told myself I would 10years ago and I can't believe Brexit won because people dislike change but change is better than stagnation so it's all good.
Paliglass · 41-45, F
@dunpender: they don't like us. I stayed with a French family and they thought I couldn't understand them but I could, I just couldn't reply (except on the day I was leaving when I fluently left haha) anyway they hate the English, even the children hate the English, it's long term ingrained hatred. We're better off out of it. Not sure about Scottish, mainly "English pigs" they say often. Really nice as an 11 year old child to live in for 2 weeks. They make good food though and they let me off being an English pig because apparently I smile alot and also was very good a shooting which impressed them for some reason. Smile, nod, do something really well and say ummm when you're eating and you're pretty much be accepted anywhere - that is what I learnt there lol
StefanoHopkins · 51-55, M
Why is it that the same kind of idiots have gained power on both sides of the pond ?
I understand that it's going on in other European countries as well.
Sunspots ? Strange viruses from outer space ?
Intelligent gases from Pluto getting into the atmosphere ? (Vonnegut)
Gaahh !
Paliglass · 41-45, F
We need Trump. Without him we'd be screwed. If anyone messed up the elections it was us because we couldn't afford it to go any other way. Russians are easy to blame. It's an eggs and omelet situation.
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@SarahD: It was Britain too. America is not exceptional when it comes to shit decisions. ;-)
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When I was a young man in the early 70s, we joined the Common Market. No problem: made a lot of sense. Then, little by little, Europe's influence grew and we had to change our ways so that various processes aligned. So, we became the European Economic Community. The Community then became a Union. More and more legislation was heaped upon us so we had had to create a Parliament to deal with it all, and so it continued. I am no xenophobe. I love travelling in Europe and used to teach French when I was a teacher. However, I have a fundamental problem with the way we have ceded control of many of our laws and elements of our economy. I voted for Brexit with a very heavy heart after months of deliberation and debate and I have the greatest respect for those who voted to stay in. It was a tough decision for me but the nation made its decision. Now, I believe that we must get on with it and make it work. I am no Tory but I thought May's speech was a good one today. Let us see how friendly our European friends really are...
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StefanoHopkins · 51-55, M
@dunpender: Well, the rednecks' power may be short-lived. Here's some stats on the election :
1. Hillary won the popular vote by 3 million votes.

2. The electoral college is skewed as to representation. Ten of the Trump, rural states, with sparse populations, get an EC voter for every 100,000 voters. California gets only one EC voter for every 700,000 voters. 7 times the voting power for the rural rednecks.

3. Remember the Tea Party ? They're still there, but they don't have the numbers like they did. Trump's rally rednecks are not that large a percentage of the people.

Straighten out the voter disparities, tough it out for 4 long years, and I think we'll see something different. Maybe sooner, if he overreaches and the Republican House reps start getting scared about re-election.

Americans (I now speak of them in the third person and consider myself a citizen of the country known as Maine, despite our governor, have got to wake up. They've been sleepwalking for decades. ("What is that thing you keep pushing with your thumbs, anyway ?" )
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Paliglass · 41-45, F
@dunpender: he's a puppet.
Brexit actually is the one smart thing going on in Europe. Being and EU member right now is like joining the ComInt or Comicon in 1989. And it is failing for the same reasons.
@thatscottishguy: It is silly. In Canada the only reason the PQ wants to keep it is because they know it would be the only thing that would keep a "free Quebec" from becoming a third world nation overnight.
thatscottishguy · 26-30, M
I keep meaning to look into the Quebec independence movement as a few Canadian friends have complained about them.
For better or worse it is pretty much irrelevant now. Last election they were reduced to like 2 seats. Part of that was because their leadership is so completely out of touch. Their leader said they lost the last referendum because of the "ethnic vote". What the morons do not realize is the vast majority of French speaking Quebecois are no longer white descendants of French settlers from the 1700s and most are from former French colonies so they do give a damn about the so called birthright and grudge of the dwindling settler population who can't get over losing at the plains of Abraham and they completely alienated the one population that could have helped their cause but they have the same attitude many French do towards the people of their former colonies which means they look down on them.
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Next step is filling in the channel tunnel, possibly followed by widening of the channel. Most of Kent is unnecessary, so there shouldn't be too many complaints.
Maggimay · 46-50, F
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Friggen scary!!!
Cierzo · M
If it is soft Brexit, to get an status similar to Norway or Switzerland, it is not really a Brexit.
Leaving means leaving totally, and then, if both UK and EU want, negotiate on certain agreements on tariffs or free movement of person.
It is like a breaking couple. First they separate,and then after a while they decide whether they want to be friends or not.
Paliglass · 41-45, F
@Cierzo: they pay the same amount to have "free trade" with Europe but have no vote or seat in European parliament - f'd up the arse.
Cierzo · M
@Paliglass: The European parliament does not decide much anyway. It is a golden retirement for politicians
Paliglass · 41-45, F
@Cierzo: they f with Epsom salts. Anyway why do we need more mps on a jolly up wasting money, patting eachothers backs, lining their own pockets and why do we need them all congregated from many countries in one place - Unless it's to provide an opportune moment to assassinate many countries politicians in one go for some reason it's completely unnecessary lol
StefanoHopkins · 51-55, M
Obama's Legacy :

He's put troops along Norway's border with Russia. Don't tell me he doesn't have a sense of humor.
So now, if Trump pulls them back, he betrays himself as being in bed with Putin.

Russia has a long and interesting culture, music, literature, films.
But they play hardball. They practically invented the honey trap.

I crave the uploading of a clip of some ho pissing on Trump.

His own party will one by one oppose him. His nominees are, already.

Of course, that's because he not really a Republican. He's not really anything.
thatscottishguy · 26-30, M
You realise the question was about Brexit right?
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
Dude there are like other countries that are not called America.
CaptainCanadia · 41-45, M
If I was to hazard a guess, I'd say the EU would make soft Brexit as painful as possible. But I'm not the Brit here. ;)
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
Yeah if I was them I would f*** us up too.

The EU does not exactly want Marine Le Pen to be able to say; "Wow, look how well the UK is doing since they left!"
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Paliglass · 41-45, F
Maybe we can grow something better than fields and fields of rapeseed oil.
lorne13 · 61-69, M
why do people keep saying Britain and Brexit? Only the English voted for it
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@lorne13: LOL I get the analogy.

TBF to Trump, he will need loads of Mexican labour to build his own wall. I'd laugh if 40,000 guest workers disappeared over the border.
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@bijouxbroussard: [youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxgpMLSK_I8]
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@Burnley123:
Thodsis · 51-55, M
Because the bullshit merchants think that's a good brand name.
TheConstantGardener · 56-60, M
I guess that we'll have to wait and see. A lot of promises were made and now the Brexiteers have the opportunity to deliver on them. We shall hold them to account.
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
Absolutely. My worry is though that they will still find ways to shift blame. We can't let them get away with that.
thatscottishguy · 26-30, M
Hehehe it's all coming together. Only a matter of time.
Some of Theresa May's speech aired on our news this morning.
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
She is promising the moon on a stick. Laughably trying to spin it as the UK having more of a globalist outlook. She is negotiating tough with people who have more power and who want us to do badly. What could possibly go wrong?

 
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