Bit of a specialized question here for creationists. Mokele-mbembe: the living sauropod dinosaur hiding in the Congo. [Spirituality & Religion]
[b]Question: Many young earth creationists believe that if they could prove this animal to be real then this would disprove evolution. How?[/b] Are there any young earthers here who could explain to me how finding a living (non-avian) dinosaur would disprove evolution or even present a problem?
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@GodSpeed63 [quote]Evolution has already disproved time[/quote] Only in your dreams. If anyone had managed to disprove evolution there would be papers in all the scientific journals and they would almost certainly be in line for a Nobel Prize. If you do have proof, publish! Don't keep it to yourself.
Paleontology, geology, biology, genetics, physics, ontogeny, phylogeny etc. All these fields converge on the same conclusion: life on this planet evolved and shares common ancestry. It's called a synthesis of data and it's science.🤷♀️
@Pikachu [quote]Paleontology, geology, biology, genetics, physics, ontogeny, phylogeny etc. All these fields converge on the same conclusion: life on this planet evolved and shares common ancestry. It's called a synthesis of data and it's science.[/quote]
Yahweh says different and His Science is reliable, man's 'science' is not reliable.
Sorry bud, the bible isn't a science book. It's a book of mythologized history and cultural practices neither of which disproves evolution. You're wrong🤷♀️
lol ex[i]actly[/i]. Man's history by men for men. And none of it disproves evolution. None of it is science.
It's fundamentally dishonest to only recognize science when it says what you want it to say and reject it when it disagrees with you. That is literally the ANTITHESIS of what science is and why science works.🤷♀️
@Pikachu [quote]Man's history by men for men[/quote]
Can't you get anything right, Pikachu? Try focusing more on your case for evolution than trying to discredit the Word of God and ridiculing us. If you can't prove that evolution is a fact, then face the truth that it isn't and let it go at that.
I haven't ridiculed you. I have accurately represented your position: science which disputes your belief about what the bible says is not "true" science. If that is inaccurate then please do correct me.
If it [i]is[/i] accurate then that attitude is the antithesis of what makes science such an effective tool.
You asked where we got evidence for evolution and i replied with many independent fields of study, all converging on the same conclusion: evolution has occurred on this planet.
You don't like that answer. Sorry. You can call evolution fake all you want but that won't make it true. Let it go at that🤷♀️
@Pikachu [quote]And that's why you can only reject evolution and not refute the evidence that it has occurred. .[/quote]
I'll put it this way, man's 'science' cannot stand up to the Word of God let alone refute it. Where's this so called 'evidence' for evolution and why is it taking you so long to produce it?
You have been presented with a myriad of evidence and every time you have rejected it while being conspicuously unable to actually refute it or justify that rejection.
I'd be happy to share evidence of evolution if i thought you would actually engage thoughtfully with it.
So to that end, with God as your witness, if i now share evidence of evolution with you, will you make a good faith effort to explain why you think it is invalid or why it is better explained by creation?
@Pikachu [quote]You have been presented with a myriad of evidence[/quote]
The only evidence I've seen is evidence for intelligent design, and not random chance or natural selection.
[quote]I'd be happy to share evidence of evolution if i thought you would actually engage thoughtfully with it.[/quote]
You have no evidence for evolution, only intelligent design by Yahweh, Himself.
[quote]So to that end, with God as your witness, if i now share evidence of evolution with you, will you make a good faith effort to explain why you think it is invalid or why it is better explained by creation?[/quote]
God is my witness and He knows where my heart stands on truth and lie. This is what it's all about: Truth vs lie and not creation vs evolution.
[quote]He knows where my heart stands on truth and lie.[/quote]
lol that's why i invoke that to demonstrate where you're lying. Funny enough you never seem to want to answer questions directly when i remind you that god is your witness. And this time is no different.
I asked you a yes or no question with the purpose of showing that you had both the knowledge and the good faith intention to discuss the evidence.
Instead of answering that STRIAGHT yes or no question you deflected.
You deny evolution but you know you're not competent to refute the evidence. Dishonest and God knows it. You're failing him. Let it go at that.🤷♀️
I asked you a yes or no question with the purpose of showing that you had both the knowledge and the good faith intention to discuss the evidence.
Instead of answering that STRIAGHT yes or no question you deflected.
You deny evolution but you know you're not competent to refute the evidence. You're dishonest and God knows it. You're failing him. Let it go at that.🤷♀️
With God as your witness, if i now share evidence of evolution with you, will you make a good faith effort to explain why you think it is invalid or why it is better explained by creation?
@Pikachu [quote]With God as your witness, if i now share evidence of evolution with you, will you make a good faith effort to explain why you think it is invalid or why it is better explained by creation?[/quote]
With God, there is no evolution except in man's inventions.
So your answer is no. You are not able or willing to have a good-faith discussion about the evidence for evolution. Ok. Deflection acknowledged. We'll let it go at that.
