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[quote]Yet, they have failed to produce any kind of evidence or facts to support what they believe.[/quote]

...not true. You should look up "consilience" in the wikipedia, because the Universe has all kinds of hints which ALL point to a Universe *much* older than 5-6 ka.
DocSavage · M
@GodSpeed63
[quote] What do you think the Word of God means?[/quote]

Absolutely nothing
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@DocSavage [quote]Absolutely nothing[/quote]

If you really believe that, Doc, then you're religion is just chasing your tail that isn't there.
DocSavage · M
@GodSpeed63
[quote] Doc, then you're religion is just chasing your tail that isn't there.[/quote]
It’s “your “ religion, not “you’re” chunk head. No evidence, no god’s word, and poor grammar. That’s strike three. You’re out !

P.S. I’m an Atheist, I don’t have a religion. And I’m not in the ground. I’m alive and kicking. Beat you again.

SkeetSkeet · 100+, F
What kinda weak ass God takes 6 business days to make something?
Straylight · 31-35, F
@SkeetSkeet You ever make a chore list for the weekend and the day before you think you could do them all before lunch on Saturday if you wake up early and work hard? But then the weekend comes and you’re like “Fuck it, I have plenty of time.”
Degbeme · 70-79, M
@SkeetSkeet [quote]What kinda weak ass God takes 6 business days to make something?[/quote]

Male? 😬
@SkeetSkeet Needs to rest once in a while too. When Egypt made iron chariots, he was outclassed.
GerOttman · 61-69, M
Yes! However it was six "God" days, not six human days. Big misconception many have.
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@GerOttman Rotational speed increases and also decreases, and at irregular intervals, from a raft of causes. There’s no substantial trend in there... it’s happenstance. ‘Trends' are illusory artefacts caused by cherry-picking intervals and their scale.

'many gods theory of evolution’

Sounds interesting... do share
GerOttman · 61-69, M
@newjaninev2 Well, I know you have heard it before but I'm just going to flat out have to sat it. You don't know what you're talking about.

The many worlds theory of the universe obviously implies the many gods theory, I thought you would pick up on that one on your own, may bad!
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@GerOttman That merely begs the question in that your conclusion requires that you establish your initial proposition, and failing to do so makes your ‘obviously’ invalid.
GuyWithOpinions · 31-35, M
I dont think the concept of time existed until humans where around to think about it. Things just are and just were until a human decided to try and measure it and created a scale of time. The first clock was the sun but that only counts if the ground your standing on spins. If it didnt the concept of time might not have been created. Or we would go off the span of our aging bodies and think of it in a completely different way. I would think god just made the earth. Then we as man make stories about it in an attempt to understand what we cannot.
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@GodSpeed63 [quote]choose not to believe in the one true God[/quote]

There’s no compelling necessity to even postulate your god

So it’s not a question of belief... it’s simply ignoring an unnecessary complication
DocSavage · M
@GodSpeed63
He ate an apple.
Carazaa · F
@GuyWithOpinions God gave us the 7 day work week, and the 7 year Sabbath to keep track of time.
spjennifer · 56-60, T
If the Buybull is supposedly the "Word of God", how come Gawd didn't write it himself? Any Deity capable of creating an entire World in 6 days ought to have been able to write a simple book in seconds or minutes and made sure that ALL Mankind was aware of it, no? How come the Asians, Indians, Africans and Native Americans and Innu weren't aware of the existence of such a mighty Gawd? 😖
spjennifer · 56-60, T
@GodSpeed63

[quote]No, I'm a born again believer in Christ who interprets the Word of God the way its meant to be interpreted.[/quote]

So you're arrogant enough that you think you can interpret the word of your so-called deity when Theologists haven't been able to do that since the dawn of Christianity. The hubris of you Buybull thumpers would be hilarious if it wasn't so sad, you think just because you were dunked in water that you're free from so-called sin? I think you're all wet, lol 😖
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@spjennifer [quote]So you're arrogant enough that you think you can interpret the word of your so-called deity when Theologists haven't been able to do that since the dawn of Christianity. [/quote]

Arrogance belongs to pathological liars of which, by the grace of God, I'm not. There's only one interpretation of the Word of God and that belongs to Him and whom ever He wishes to share it with.
Diotrephes · 70-79, M
@GodSpeed63 You say that you believe in the fairy tale but why don't you believe this?

Matthew 15:24 (ERV) = Jesus answered, “God sent me only to the lost people of Israel.”

Are you part of that demographic?

And remember Matthew 10:5-6 (ERV) = "5 Jesus sent the twelve men out with these instructions: “Don’t go to the non-Jewish people. And don’t go into any town where the Samaritans live. 6 But go to the people of Israel. They are like sheep that are lost."

And who will be judged when the regeneration happens?

Matthew 19:28 (ERV) = "28 Jesus said to them, “When the time of the new world comes, the Son of Man will sit on his great and glorious throne. And I can promise that you who followed me will sit on twelve thrones, and you will judge the twelve tribes of Israel."
SW-User
I think he was following IKEA directions
Sharon · F
@GodSpeed63 As you have offered no evidence to support your claims, there is nothing to refute. You fantasies remain just that - fantasies.
on the 6th he created the cat. he tried to rest on the 7th but the cat woke him up at 4am to be fed
redredred · M
Nope, just a myth out of an old error-filled collection of stories.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
Diotrephes · 70-79, M
@sunsporter1649 just more commie propaganda.
@Baremine Now, if he could only remember what he did, he might not make them anymore.
Thodsis · 51-55, M
I'll go with a 'no' on this one.

Obviously.
Thodsis · 51-55, M
@GodSpeed63 That we've heard the stories and thought that they were just stories.
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@Thodsis [quote]That we've heard the stories and thought that they were just stories.[/quote]

They're not stories, they are historical accounts recorded in the Word of God, by God.
Thodsis · 51-55, M
@GodSpeed63 And as such should be accepted in the same way as any other historical account. With a regard to the intentions of the author. Perhaps.
zonavar68 · 51-55, M
There is no way to tell - humans were not around if you believe all that we're told, so the concept of 'time' in the way it's framed by science cannot have existed. If humans ever get to understand the universe properly it will have profound impacts on us as a species and if we still haven't destroyed our planet by then maybe a much deeper respect for the tiny spec of dirt in a very giant sea of space that we live on. No God is needed for that. BTW God cannot be either male or female if 'God' is an entity that is 'above' human form and function.
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@zonavar68 [quote]No God is needed for that.[/quote]

Why is that?

[quote]BTW God cannot be either male or female if 'God' is an entity that is 'above' human form and function.[/quote]

I only go by what God says about Himself in His Word.
DocSavage · M
@GodSpeed63
[quote] God lives outside of time and space.[/quote]
Where in the bible does it say that ?
[quote] Again, you'll have to ask Him that.[/quote]
So you’re just making it up aren’t you. It doesn’t say it in the bible, and god never mentioned it.
IM5688 · 61-69, M
One day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day, 2 Pet 3:8. This is God’s prophetic calendar. Oftentimes, preachers teach that 2 Pet 3:8 means that God took up to a thousand years to accomplish everything that He did on each of the “days” of creation.
@GodSpeed63 Always deflecting the legitimate question, not part of the Bible and you know it. More magical anecdotes and the gospel of Peter isn’t of use.
Diotrephes · 70-79, M
@IM5688 The thing with believing in ancient ethnocentric Middle Eastern Jewish religious fairy tales is that they also claim that the world will end in another 218 years. They will then take complete control of the new thing.
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@BlueSkyKing @Diotrephes [quote]Always deflecting the legitimate question[/quote]

Ask questions on subjects that you honestly don't know about, BlueSkyKing.
Diotrephes · 70-79, M
@ likesnatural ·
[quote]What if God's day was longer or different than ours?[/quote]

According to the fairy tale the Sun and the Moon and all of the stars didn't get made until the fourth day, Since we tell time by the Sun and the Moon what was used to tell time for the first three days?
Diotrephes · 70-79, M
@GodSpeed63 All matter evolves except for some people who are stuck in the past of 250,000 years ago. They should be intelligent but they are not and still have the minds of humanoids of 250,000 years ago. They would be perfectly at home in the far distant past because the modern world is far too complex for their simple minds to comprehend.
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@Diotrephes [quote]All matter evolves except for some people who are stuck in the past of 250,000 years ago.[/quote]

Still not an answer.
Diotrephes · 70-79, M
@GodSpeed63 What was the question?
Budwick · 70-79, M
[quote]Did God Really Create Everything In Six Days?[/quote]

Yup, and took a rest on the seventh day.
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@Budwick [quote]Yup, and took a rest on the seventh day.[/quote]

Amen, brother, amen!!
SW-User
"God" didn't create anything

EVEN if there happens to be a god, he did not create a single thing🙄
Sharon · F
@GodSpeed63 Where's your evidence? You keep claiming to have some but you've never been able to present a single shred of it? You're just whistling in the wind as usual.
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@Sharon [quote]Where's your evidence?[/quote]

You still have nothing, Sharon. Why am I not surprised?
DocSavage · M
@Sharon
Don’t even bother with it. We all know he’s never going to even ask a sensible question, or provide a relevant answer, let alone show a spec of evidence. Just go ahead ridiculing him like the rest of us. He’ll go run and hide soon enough.
Longleggedlady · 31-35, F
I know where we Humans descended from.
I have been to the Cradle of Humankind in Sterkfontein Valley It is called the Cradle of Humankind because it includes remains of hominids from about 2 to 3.3 million years ago.
The great apes or hominids, are a taxonomic family of primates that includes eight extant species in four genera: Pongo; Gorilla; Pan; and Homo, of which only modern humans remain.
The sad thing is that the EVOLUTIONARY process seems to have come to an abrupt end in some Regions and stupidity seems to be on the rise in the species.
Longleggedlady · 31-35, F
@Mistakesmakeus Evidence that we are distantly related
@Longleggedlady uh.. yeah i know you dont have to show evidence of how common ancestry works when i clearly have knowledge on it
Longleggedlady · 31-35, F
@Mistakesmakeus sorry hit the wrong person I meant to send it to the original poster
ArishMell · 70-79, M
Not in a literal sense, no, of course not.

Apart from the absurdity, a literal interpretation is very insulting to the God it pretends it is defending; possibly even verging on blasphemy.

It also cheapens the unknown Genesis author and his own, Late Bronze Age, Hebrew culture. Unlike the intellectual and theological blindness of latter-day literalists, he seems to have [i]thought[/i] about it. Thought how to write a lyrical parable - perhaps based on much earlier oral traditions - that made some easily-understood sense to his flock, at a time when no-one had any of the technical knowledge we all enjoy. A purely mystical parable, not a scientific hypothesis; but one considerably better than their equivalents in most religions of their time.

It also insults we who will not obey the desperate literalists; whether we believe in their God, another God, or none.

I wonder how the Genesis author might react if he could come back now, perhaps 2500 years after his death, and see what we now know of God's creation. I think he would be not only hugely impressed and awed, but would immediately re-write his story to reflect its real scale, majesty and beauty he could not have imagined in the Bronze Age. He might find it taxing to learn to use a word-processor though....
Diotrephes · 70-79, M
The fairy tale says that God ended his work on the seventh day =
Genesis 2:2 (NCB) = "God completed his work on the seventh day and on the seventh day he rested from all of his work."
Diotrephes · 70-79, M
@GodSpeed63 OK, I'm laughing at you. Got any more jokes? Ones about ancient Middle Eastern ethnocentric deities are always hilarious.
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@Diotrephes [quote]OK, I'm laughing at you[/quote]

So?
Diotrephes · 70-79, M
@GodSpeed63 I thought we were all best buddies who could joke with each other without flipping out. But if you like we can ignore each other.
Longleggedlady · 31-35, F
If you are going to follow the BIBLE blindly then you might as well follow Aesopica Blindly
Diotrephes · 70-79, M
@GodSpeed63 How large do you think the universe is?
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@Diotrephes [quote]How large do you think the universe is?[/quote]

How many stars can you count?
Diotrephes · 70-79, M
@GodSpeed63 I think that the average person can see about three thousand stars on a clear night with just naked eyeballs.
SW-User
God is above space-time though which means that creation is finished, ie everything has always existed but in infinite legions of consciousness, and the verse about infinite mansions explains this, btw these interpretations only exist to make it easier for humans to understand as by default we can access only limited states of consciousness
th3r0n · 41-45, M
@SW-User a lot of things in the Bible are figurative, but usually in prophecy or dreams

I think it was literally six days
SW-User
@th3r0n ultimately they're all interpretations so I'm not disrespecting his belief, just commenting abt mine
th3r0n · 41-45, M
@SW-User no disrespect to you dear, some things in the Bible are quite literal

I’ve gone through the New Testament twice in order aside from assorted readings over the years and I’ve been going through reading all the books of the Old Testament with 3 and a half books left to have read all of them, and I feel that I understand most of it pretty well

I do believe that it was actually six days, most of the things we are told directly like that are quite literal
Time is relative on earth. A day in the beginning of time could have spanned many centuries therefore what is written is true relative to the time it is reflecting. Look at the OT and how many lived to their 100s+ while the average age for death would have been 40 in our years today.
Therefore use the brain given to you to its capacity.
Yes Science and Religion do co-exist
Sharon · F
@GodSpeed63 My evidence is in your reply. You've just admitted you don't have any proof.
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@Sharon [quote]My evidence is in your reply.[/quote]

My reply gives testimony to the truth that God lives and His Word is truth. Since you have nothing to refute it with, the Truth still remains the truth.
DocSavage · M
@GodSpeed63
If that’s the case, god is fucked
TheOrionbeltseeker · 36-40, M
When God created earth. A period of darkness occured, he called it Night, and he placed Sun, other stars in the galaxy so essentially, he was referring to Earth in reference to time frame given.

I think he created it in 6 days with reference to Earth. It is like Earth is the king of all the planets and Sun is placed mere to bestow light on Earth.

God's own timeframe is different though because it extends from to to fro. It is never beginning and never ending.
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GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@Ferise1 [quote]Oh you imbecile, the jews wrote that book and they know it’s fiction!!![/quote]

According to whom? Learn to spell, will you?
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walabby · 61-69, M
This story of Origins comes in the same book that talks about talking snakes and donkeys....
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
[quote]They believe that it took billions of years for all this to come into existence being[/quote]

Would you like to examine the evidence around that? Yes? [b]Let’s do that right now[/b]

[quote]they claim that God doesn't live and His Word is not true[/quote]

Personally, I don’t give a dam what you say about your god, and the claims you make about it. It’s a trivial and pointless postulation.

[quote]failed to produce any kind of evidence or facts to support what they believe[/quote]

Belief? What does belief have to do with anything?

[b]Evidence. Evidence. Evidence.[/b]

You like videos, yes?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIxvQMhttq4
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@GodSpeed63 Did I mention that this is the part where you run away?

As always
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@newjaninev2 [quote]Did I mention that this is the part where you run away?[/quote]

If you'll come out from shivering under your bed, you'll see that I'm still here and it's you that's running away, Newjaninev. Instead of running away and hiding under your bed, try using your head for a change and realize that science points to God and not your world beliefs.
Elena05 · F
could god create a universe in less then 6 days ? why did he have to rest the 7th day when he is all powerful and strong ? how many other universes did god create ?
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@Elena05 [quote]well i cant talk to him and he isnt willing to specify all these holes in that claim to have created a universe...[/quote]

Sure you can talk to Him if you give Him a chance. He's been talking to you right along but you haven't been listening to Him. We're all guilty of that. One thing you ought to know, God never claims anything but gives testimony to the Truth that He has established since before the foundations of the earth.
Elena05 · F
what are his explanations to quantum thery observations like the realitzy foam then... sounds like something a crazy person would create
th3r0n · 41-45, M
@Elena05 he could have made it in an instant, he made it in six days and rested on the seventh as an example for us because we were made in such a way that we need it

Rest on the seventh day and remembering it to keep it set apart are a sign between the creator and those who worship him

We are only told of one new heaven and new earth revealed after these are destroyed in the end
zonavar68 · 51-55, M
I am Groot therefore I am God. The Chattermax God.
DocSavage · M
[quote] they instead, choose to bombard us with ridicule, mocking, and insults because they can't comprehend the one true God [/quote]

Actually we can comprehend god ( we just don’t believe he exist )
The ridicule, mocking and insults, we do that, because of what you think counts as evidence. You clearly have no comprehension of that .
[quote] Why can't skeptics support their claims; or rather, why do they choose not to support them? Are they ashamed of their belief system knowing that what they're believing is a lie? [/quote]

This supports the previous quote. The bible is far from what anyone would call evidence. You haven’t presented any evidence ,You never do, and you never will. And you wonder why people mock you
[quote] wisdom is replaced by foolishness[/quote]
Which is why skeptics (Atheist) demand such high standards of evidence. To replace foolishness with wisdom. A god should not fear the truth, after all. So why hide it ?
Don’t blame us if you can’t meet even the lowest standards. We can and have met our burden of proof. Let’s see you do the same.
revenant · F
Well why not ?
Why should it take millions of years anyway?
revenant · F
@BitterSweetPotato a fraction of a second !
TheOrionbeltseeker · 36-40, M
@BitterSweetPotato But then, it would all have been haphazard with no perfect ratios.
BitterSweetPotato · 31-35, F
@TheOrionbeltseeker I can produce quality work under pressure... This is why it is written in my CV CAN work under pressure,.
Time for "I got a video for that".

Anecdotes, magical claims, and mythology is not evidence. All powerful except against Egyptian iron.
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@BlueSkyKing [quote]Anecdotes, magical claims, and mythology is not evidence.[/quote]

Where is your support, or do you have any support?
@GodSpeed63 Sure do, I wear suspenders.
Human1000 · M
People who believe this should have their children taken away.
Imsleepy · 31-35
I wrote a question. I will rephrase it for you if you need me to. What created your god? @hippyjoe1955
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@Imsleepy So you didn't read my response when I answered. Carry on in your foolishness.
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Yeah, it took me 6 days because I was working on other projects too but it was a fun hobby

You can thank me later in your prayers 🙏
Carazaa · F
YES, absolutely!
Carazaa · F
@Mistakesmakeus

How?

[b]The Beginning[/b]
1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2 Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.

3 And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. 4 God saw that the light was good, and he separated the light from the darkness. 5 God called the light “day,” and the darkness he called “night.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the first day.

6 And God said, “Let there be a vault between the waters to separate water from water.” 7 So God made the vault and separated the water under the vault from the water above it. And it was so. 8 God called the vault “sky.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the second day.

9 And God said, “Let the water under the sky be gathered to one place, and let dry ground appear.” And it was so. 10 God called the dry ground “land,” and the gathered waters he called “seas.” And God saw that it was good.

11 Then God said, “Let the land produce vegetation: seed-bearing plants and trees on the land that bear fruit with seed in it, according to their various kinds.” And it was so. 12 The land produced vegetation: plants bearing seed according to their kinds and trees bearing fruit with seed in it according to their kinds. And God saw that it was good. 13 And there was evening, and there was morning—the third day.

14 And God said, “Let there be lights in the vault of the sky to separate the day from the night, and let them serve as signs to mark sacred times, and days and years, 15 and let them be lights in the vault of the sky to give light on the earth.” And it was so. 16 God made two great lights—the greater light to govern the day and the lesser light to govern the night. He also made the stars. 17 God set them in the vault of the sky to give light on the earth, 18 to govern the day and the night, and to separate light from darkness. And God saw that it was good. 19 And there was evening, and there was morning—the fourth day.

20 And God said, “Let the water teem with living creatures, and let birds fly above the earth across the vault of the sky.” 21 So God created the great creatures of the sea and every living thing with which the water teems and that moves about in it, according to their kinds, and every winged bird according to its kind. And God saw that it was good. 22 God blessed them and said, “Be fruitful and increase in number and fill the water in the seas, and let the birds increase on the earth.” 23 And there was evening, and there was morning—the fifth day.

24 And God said, “Let the land produce living creatures according to their kinds: the livestock, the creatures that move along the ground, and the wild animals, each according to its kind.” And it was so. 25 God made the wild animals according to their kinds, the livestock according to their kinds, and all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds. And God saw that it was good.

26 Then God said, “Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness, so that they may rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky, over the livestock and all the wild animals,[a] and over all the creatures that move along the ground.”

27 So God created mankind in his own image,
in the image of God he created them;
male and female he created them.

28 God blessed them and said to them, “Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky and over every living creature that moves on the ground.”

29 Then God said, “I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food. 30 And to all the beasts of the earth and all the birds in the sky and all the creatures that move along the ground—everything that has the breath of life in it—I give every green plant for food.” And it was so.

31 God saw all that he had made, and it was very good[b]. And there was evening, and there was morning—the sixth day.[/b]
likesnatural · 70-79, M
@Carazaa What if God's day was longer or different than ours?
Carazaa · F
@likesnatural God is clear that it is 24 hrs. If you look at Genesis above, it says morning/evenings so here God is very clear he meant 24 hours. But in general when it comes to the[i] total [/i]Bible timeline from day one of creation to the last day of this world is 7 thousand years (6000 years of work, and 1 thousand years of rest) We are at the end of 6000 years right about now, so we can expect Jesus any day in my esimation.
Graylight · 51-55, F
[quote]They believe that it took billions of years for all this to come into existence.... Yet, they have failed to produce any kind of evidence or facts to support what they believe. [/quote]

Literally the entire body of science and medicine. On every level, in every discipline.

Where as you have a cobbled together book of writings by men selling religion with the guarantee slapped on it that it was all OK'd by God.
Graylight · 51-55, F
@Baremine You sir, are a moron. Not name-calling, the inevitable conclusion of any amount of observation of you.
Baremine · 70-79, C
@Graylight maybe I think the same of you.
Carazaa · F
@Graylight No not all scientists agree with you!
Sure but each day was more than 2 billion years by our perception.
On the seventh day, he clapped cheeks.
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GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@Ferise1 [quote] it’s ancient primitive myth[/quote]

Where's the history that you think belongs there? Let me see it.
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DesiDudeJ04 · 26-30, M
We must understand that in scientific way. Let's think about time dilation.
Entwistle · 56-60, M
Why didn't he just snap his fingers and create everything in an instant?
BitterSweetPotato · 31-35, F
In the beginning was the potatoes, and the potatoes were the god 🥔🥴
iamelijah · 26-30, M
If God is real why he doesn't showed up infront of us?
likesnatural · 70-79, M
Who said that God's day was the same as ours?
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@JohnnyNoir [quote]I don't believe in the christian creation myth[/quote]

Where do you get the idea that God's Word is a myth? Where are the historical events that took place during those times then?
JohnnyNoir · 56-60, M
@GodSpeed63 that's my belief.
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@JohnnyNoir [quote]that's my belief.[/quote]

You're entitled to it. Whether it's true or not is a different story. Remember this, belief follows truth every time. Make sure of what you're believing is actually true.
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GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@BigAssLeech [quote]No.[/quote]

Why?
spjennifer · 56-60, T
Justenjoyit · 56-60, M
All I can say is no one has come back to lets us know.
Human1000 · M
You’re a douche bag.
TheLordOfHell · 41-45
I was not there

 
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