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RodionRomanovitch · 56-60, M
Commiserations mate , I can't begin to imagine just how bad you felt after that. Hence my reluctance to post anything last night.
A few of my thoughts for what it's worth.
Southgate is not the genius that many people were beginning to paint him as. He did well to steer his team to a final and deserves credit for that. But when the chips were down he was found wanting. How a team with such an abundance of exciting attacking talent can be set up in such a way that their star striker doesn't even get a sight of goal in 120 mins is inexcusable.
To sit back after the gift of an early goal and expect you're going to keep an accomplished outfit like Italy out for the next ninety minutes was both naive and foolish.
At half time changes should have been made and weren't. Italy picked up where they left off , dominating the midfield and enjoying almost total possession. The equaliser was an inevitability by this point and England were lucky not to lose the game in normal time.
The players (Grealish ,Sancho and Rashford) that should have been brought on to ease that pressure weren't introduced until late into added time , apparently just to take penalties. This was madness. Three kids on who barely had the time to lose the nervous energy in their legs now being asked to to take penalties (bar Grealish , again which was odd) in the biggest game of their life. I knew as soon as Rashford ambled up and the Italian goalie didn't move that the game was up. He had to find the corner and he couldn't , hopelessly over-compensating.
Even then there was a reprieve for England as the usually deadly Jorginho somehow contrived to miss his penalty.
So up steps the 19yr old Bukayo Saka , who has had an absolute stinker since coming on and now has the weight of the world on his shoulders. The inevitable happens.
England have got a good team and have showed they now have the discipline to play out a gameplan. Where they were let down here was in their absolute timidity and their reluctance to change things when the game dictated it. (And the fiasco of the penalty picks.) That falls squarely on the manager.
A few of my thoughts for what it's worth.
Southgate is not the genius that many people were beginning to paint him as. He did well to steer his team to a final and deserves credit for that. But when the chips were down he was found wanting. How a team with such an abundance of exciting attacking talent can be set up in such a way that their star striker doesn't even get a sight of goal in 120 mins is inexcusable.
To sit back after the gift of an early goal and expect you're going to keep an accomplished outfit like Italy out for the next ninety minutes was both naive and foolish.
At half time changes should have been made and weren't. Italy picked up where they left off , dominating the midfield and enjoying almost total possession. The equaliser was an inevitability by this point and England were lucky not to lose the game in normal time.
The players (Grealish ,Sancho and Rashford) that should have been brought on to ease that pressure weren't introduced until late into added time , apparently just to take penalties. This was madness. Three kids on who barely had the time to lose the nervous energy in their legs now being asked to to take penalties (bar Grealish , again which was odd) in the biggest game of their life. I knew as soon as Rashford ambled up and the Italian goalie didn't move that the game was up. He had to find the corner and he couldn't , hopelessly over-compensating.
Even then there was a reprieve for England as the usually deadly Jorginho somehow contrived to miss his penalty.
So up steps the 19yr old Bukayo Saka , who has had an absolute stinker since coming on and now has the weight of the world on his shoulders. The inevitable happens.
England have got a good team and have showed they now have the discipline to play out a gameplan. Where they were let down here was in their absolute timidity and their reluctance to change things when the game dictated it. (And the fiasco of the penalty picks.) That falls squarely on the manager.
LookingForTheSummer · 31-35, M
What Southgate did tonight just reminded me of Domenech's decision in World Cup 2006 final. He brought Trezeguet, a player who had barely played in that tournament, in for penalty shootouts. He missed it, of course, and Italy became the champion.
I think that was a stupid decision from Southgate. He had completely ignored Rashford and Sancho during the tournament, then brought them in for penalties and expected them to have high spirits and score?
I think that was a stupid decision from Southgate. He had completely ignored Rashford and Sancho during the tournament, then brought them in for penalties and expected them to have high spirits and score?
BridgeOvertroubledWaters · 61-69, M
@LookingForTheSummer agreed
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Burnley123 · 41-45, M
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
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JimboSaturn · 51-55, M
@Burnley123 Hate it not a mea sure of the best team
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
InOtterWords · F
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@InOtterWords need a fuckin shot
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@InOtterWords Saka is playing like an Arsenal player.
Elessar · 26-30, M
Aaand extra times 😣
nem16 · 36-40, M
That's a red surely?
Elessar · 26-30, M
Chiellini wtf are you doing
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
adorbz · 26-30, F
@Burnley123 yeeeeeep 😢
RodionRomanovitch · 56-60, M
@Burnley123 If they'd have been a bit more positive after going ahead so early they might have had this wrapped up by now. Just sitting back and inviting them on is not smart tactics.
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SammyJo · 51-55, F
Just knew that was coming....
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Elessar · 26-30, M
Bonucci 🙇♂️🙇♂️
BridgeOvertroubledWaters · 61-69, M
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Burnley123 · 41-45, M
HT.
Excellent first half from England and deserve the lead. Mostly nullified Italy's game and look sporadically dangerous. Southgate (the man with the plan) worked to exploit the space on the left of the Italian defence.
England defenders and DCMs all look strong. Italy did come more into it in the last ten minutes and its not over.
I'll take that.
Excellent first half from England and deserve the lead. Mostly nullified Italy's game and look sporadically dangerous. Southgate (the man with the plan) worked to exploit the space on the left of the Italian defence.
England defenders and DCMs all look strong. Italy did come more into it in the last ten minutes and its not over.
I'll take that.
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@RodionRomanovitch Bitter Welsh scouser. 😎
RodionRomanovitch · 56-60, M
@Burnley123 Game on now la !
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
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Kwek00 · 41-45, M
@Burnley123 Ottergirl is right too ofcourse, but it's not the first time. No respect what so ever.
Anyway, I wanted to make a post but can just as well say it here. England is better. Italy only had a good last 20 minutes, but are unable to get a shot at goal.
There is at least more football to see in this one, then the Copa America this morning. Those people were just fighting and trying to break someones leg.
Anyway, I wanted to make a post but can just as well say it here. England is better. Italy only had a good last 20 minutes, but are unable to get a shot at goal.
There is at least more football to see in this one, then the Copa America this morning. Those people were just fighting and trying to break someones leg.
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@Kwek00 I don't take the goal punishment thing seriously but I fully acknowledge that booing another team's anthem lacks class. I would never do it and I know a lot of other English people who find that embarrassing. Unfortunately, my country has a number of dick heads who don't deserve this team. Pardon the language.
OnePatheticClown · 51-55, M
InOtterWords · F
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Have a pint
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SammyJo · 51-55, F
@InOtterWords Nacho's.....me and my 7 year old are having Dandelion & Burdock....the wife's on the wine - white.....
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