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Magenta · F
It isn't a "decision", that's what religion and the imagination is. Deciding something versus having faith.

Divine is God and comes from him His divine power. We certainly aren't, but he can bestow upon us.
Renkon · M
@Magenta Interesting thought...🤔
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Ive tried to explain this so many times, but youve worded it better.

I know there are many who need religion, or a prophetic book to guide them, or rituals to connect them to something greater.
But then there are those that just feel it, see it and are naturally connected to the divinity of life.

Perosnally ive never felt divinity from a book, or during a sermon. Although I have felt it in the rain, or in a sunrise.

I think everyone is tuned to their own 'vibration' , (if you can call it that), so everyone gets their "divinity" their own way 🤷‍♀
being · 36-40, F
@OogieBoogie you said it so nicely
Renkon · M
@OogieBoogie You stated it well... 👍
being · 36-40, F
In the end it comes to the individual's degree of freedom to choose and of choosing. Nothing wrong with choosing to listen to another, who acts as a divine messenger, if that is the person's choice.
In the end each turns to their own room at night.

I like very much this Einstein's quote, (if it is his) that there are two ways to see the world, as everything is magic and as nothing is. In the same sense, everything can seem divine, or nothing can...

Of course yes there is the gray scale, moments of realization and glimpse of divine. Sometimes obedience can lead to realization if the obedient has a mind of their own...and don't get literally attached to the wordings of an authority figure.

I think I like taoism the best, saying that there is not one way and how divinity or what they call the Dao, doesn't have a path towards it or a name..
being · 36-40, F
@Renkon I have felt that certain teachers I have met during vipassana meditation courses have helped me to come closer to realisations, pointed me towards signs.
Renkon · M
@being Vipassana......, that form of meditation can bring clarity within. If I may ask, how far have you taken your meditation?
being · 36-40, F
@Renkon I have been 3 times to 10-days silent courses of the Goenka centers during my travels.

My first course was in Nepal, then in Hong Kong. I have stayed for a week to a monastery in Thailand where we were practicing also walking meditation. And last one was in Malaysia where I stayed for one month in total, frequented a ten day course and 3 weeks of volunteering.
I asked then if I could become a long term volunteer but they send me home and I see why.

My first course was in 2023 but I am not as disciplined as I would like.
If you read my posts they are such a mess some of them and it is a paradox to be talking about vipassana, but it's my case.
Nevertheless I have experienced great shifts and I am grateful this has crossed my path.

How about your experience with it?
CloudAngel80 · 41-45, F
Divinity..isnt that the white Christmas fudge granny makes???
Joking-
Divinity or being divine is just an information that conforms to higher intelligence, higher powers, a more sabotaging approach to is it real to u..in my own opinion, knowing is head knowledge, application is heart knowledge. Dont setup urself for nit picking projects..dive in and ask for God almighty to guide ya by direction of tge Holy Spirit
Renkon · M
@CloudAngel80 It's a positive way to think...but..
If 'God' remains a concept and not a foundational experience, isn't investing a whole life's hope & choices into it a rational gamble? High cost for low personal certainty seems counterproductive. 🤔
CloudAngel80 · 41-45, F
@Renkon to each their own. But as for me & my house, ill serve the Lord, Jesus
Renkon · M
@CloudAngel80 .... That feels like a touch of deep devotion in you. That can infuse strength in your heart...
PatientlyWaiting25 · 46-50, F
Yes! This! A preacher is there for education and guiding you to calm your mind so that you can experience the holy spirit. That interaction does not come from the church but from a personal relationship between yourself and God.
Renkon · M
@PatientlyWaiting25
That interaction does not come from the church but from a personal relationship between yourself and God.
That's wise words...
jehova · 36-40, M
It is an individual’s perception and experience
I’d say
Achelois · F
It’s within us, we are more powerful than we think.

✨✨✨
Renkon · M
@Achelois Empowering that realization can be transformative…
Achelois · F
@Renkon

Very empowering, my life has completely transformed, everyday i experience miracles, blows my mind 🌟✨
Adstar · 56-60, M
God is the Authority on that...

The only people who have the divine within are those who have been indwelled by the Holy Spirit..
Renkon · M
@Adstar
t...hose who have been indwelled by the Holy Spirit
How will we identify those people?
Adstar · 56-60, M
@Renkon The question you should be asking is:; How can i become one of those people?
peterlee · M
God’s Grace

See what happens when you align your will with His.
Renkon · M
@peterlee I understand...But... for most people, He and His will remain concepts defined by books and scholars’ interpretations...rarely something personally experienced.
peterlee · M
@Renkon I think I’m going to leave this one alone. It’s been a challenging week.
yestestvennaya · 22-25, F
Do you want to be God? Are you a god?
Renkon · M
@yestestvennaya Am I God? I don’t think so. Do I want to be God? Not exactly.....what I seek is oneness with God, with divinity, or with truth....whatever name the world gives to that ultimate unity.
But that realization must come from my own experience, not from books, preachers, or scholars.
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