thisguy20 · 41-45, M
I would largely agree. Of course, Biden is really the only competition Obama has: so it is really a matter of best vs second best...
BohoBabe · M
@thisguy20 Biden passed the most progressive platform since FDR. It really is a shame that he didn't have the spine to stand up to Israel, both because of the genocide, and because it's a major reason that Harris lost to Trump. I wanted to like Biden, but history isn't going to be kind to him.
ViciDraco · 41-45, M
I mean, the bar isn't that high. Sadly candidate Obama was better than president Obama. I feel like he should have fought the republicans more and made a bigger media fuss about their obstructionism. He was too much of a lead from the back kind of guy.
Also, I feel like Biden had a more effective administration than Obama did. Biden's age wasn't doing him any favors but he did put some pretty good people in place.
Also, I feel like Biden had a more effective administration than Obama did. Biden's age wasn't doing him any favors but he did put some pretty good people in place.
Kwek00 · 41-45, M
I honestly think, that if you'll wait a couple of years, Biden is going to be perceived as a better president then Obama was. Considering his accomplishments, in a hostile enviorment, and he did it all in 4 years. But we'll see over time.
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Kwek00 · 41-45, M
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Not sure what was actually bigger... this... or the fact that all those wallstreet creeps, after creating assets out of thin air that eventually crashed the economy, went free. He literally filled his cabinet with ex-bankers... which in my opinion seriously takes away trust that people have in the system. For an aspiring figure with speeches that are loaded with dreams of an ideal future... that was a bad move. I'm not saying the governement should have let the world economy collapse... but responsibility had to be taken, and the American governement prosecuted no one... that is the task of the executive to at least bring it to the court.
Don't forget, that this is a judicial procedure. Biden might be the president in this millenium that let the system do what it was intended to do... he let congress work and he let the judicial branch work. Congress during his periode passed a series of big bills that he executed. The judicial branch, espescially in Florida, didn't do it's job... which is something Trump still praises Aileen Cannon for.
And even for his age, Biden was pretty sharp at most times that he had to be. Just go back to his last state of the union, while those republicans are screeching towards him. He provided them all with an answer. Unlike the current executive, where the speaker of the house started throwing out those that gave criticism.
The biggest problems... for me... is that Biden was weak a the end of his periode. In the last months he crossed the line 3 times... He tried to get student loan forgiveness using emergency powers twice, which is terrible imo. And he pretty much set a new standard, by signing a bunch of pardon deals for his own inner circle.
I think that the democratic party as a whole underestimated the authoritarian opposition... this wasn't a job for Biden, who warned the country in several of his speeches. But the democratic party, should have taken a more hostile stance towards the segment in the republican party that was caught up in MAGA nonsense.
My biggest knock on Obama was continuing the status quo with the “war on terror.
Not sure what was actually bigger... this... or the fact that all those wallstreet creeps, after creating assets out of thin air that eventually crashed the economy, went free. He literally filled his cabinet with ex-bankers... which in my opinion seriously takes away trust that people have in the system. For an aspiring figure with speeches that are loaded with dreams of an ideal future... that was a bad move. I'm not saying the governement should have let the world economy collapse... but responsibility had to be taken, and the American governement prosecuted no one... that is the task of the executive to at least bring it to the court.
For me his biggest flaw was not going after the previous administrations’ crimes hard enough. They had 4 years to send them all to jail and failed.
Don't forget, that this is a judicial procedure. Biden might be the president in this millenium that let the system do what it was intended to do... he let congress work and he let the judicial branch work. Congress during his periode passed a series of big bills that he executed. The judicial branch, espescially in Florida, didn't do it's job... which is something Trump still praises Aileen Cannon for.
And even for his age, Biden was pretty sharp at most times that he had to be. Just go back to his last state of the union, while those republicans are screeching towards him. He provided them all with an answer. Unlike the current executive, where the speaker of the house started throwing out those that gave criticism.
The biggest problems... for me... is that Biden was weak a the end of his periode. In the last months he crossed the line 3 times... He tried to get student loan forgiveness using emergency powers twice, which is terrible imo. And he pretty much set a new standard, by signing a bunch of pardon deals for his own inner circle.
I think that the democratic party as a whole underestimated the authoritarian opposition... this wasn't a job for Biden, who warned the country in several of his speeches. But the democratic party, should have taken a more hostile stance towards the segment in the republican party that was caught up in MAGA nonsense.
trollslayer · 46-50, M
@Kwek00 well, I think part of the current “housing crisis” stems from the buying of foreclosure houses on the cheap back in 2010-2016 by investment groups, who drive up prices and keep people forever renting.
Kwek00 · 41-45, M
@trollslayer I've not looked into that... I will tell you, that part of it depends on what state you are living in ... I read through the wikipedia page of the californian housing crisis once... and it's long, it goes way back. And it's complicated, just a lot of different factors all working towards the problem.
FreddieUK · 70-79, M
As an outsider, I wouldn't want to comment on how good he was at domestic politics, but his foreign policy was rather weak. Having said that, at least he had one which is more than can be said for the current holder of that Office who makes up everything as he goes along to fit what his voices are telling him that day.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
On the face of it, Yes. But with the following provisos... First, there havent been ANY really well performing presidents for the nation internally so far this century.. And presidents do tend to either be popular internationally or within America..Second, Look at who he had for competition... Every President so far this century has steered a steady course toward the iceberg like its not there. And the current one has yelled "Flank speed" Its a big beautiful ice berg and I want it...And charged right into it...😷
BohoBabe · M
I would say Biden was better because he had a better platform, and he got more of it passed than Obama did with his. But while Obama was bad on Palestine, Biden was considerably worse. It's definitely going to drag his legacy down.
trollslayer · 46-50, M
@BohoBabe the fact that the ACA exists in some form 16 years later is remarkable.
Captainjackass · 31-35, M
I miss when the most controversial thing a president did was wear a tan suit. Look how low we’ve fallen since.
SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
He was the most popular, by some distance.
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whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@basilfawlty89 It was Humpty Dumpty who first said. "A word means what I say it means".. Who knew Lewis Carroll was a Prophet??😷
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trollslayer · 46-50, M
@PalteseMalconFunch GFY = good for you