@Driver2 AND We don’t make anyone follow our faith. Islam religion demands.

@NoGamesTolerated true. Last time I checked there were laws against "apostasy" (the right to leave Islam) in 24 Islamic countries.

@NoGamesTolerated These are missionaries all over the country trying to convert everyone else to their cults.

@SW-User That might work too. Or White Jesus versus Real Jesus.

@Roundandroundwego luckily he plays favourites lol

@Spunkylama something you need to research. Speration of Church and State is NOT in the constitution. It was in papers Thomas Jefferson wrote. The constitution prohibited the government from making a state church.

@Spunkylama Also note NOBODY was coerced.

@Baremine [quote]First Amendment and Religion
The First Amendment has two provisions concerning religion: the Establishment Clause and the Free Exercise Clause. The Establishment clause prohibits the government from "establishing" a religion. The precise definition of "establishment" is unclear. Historically, it meant prohibiting state-sponsored churches, such as the Church of England.

Today, what constitutes an "establishment of religion" is often governed under the three-part test set forth by the U.S. Supreme Court in Lemon v. Kurtzman, 403 U.S. 602 (1971). Under the "Lemon" test, government can assist religion only if (1) the primary purpose of the assistance is secular, (2) the assistance must neither promote nor inhibit religion, and (3) there is no excessive entanglement between church and state.

The Free Exercise Clause protects citizens' right to practice their religion as they please, so long as the practice does not run afoul of a "public morals" or a "compelling" governmental interest. For instance, in Prince v. Massachusetts, 321 U.S. 158 (1944), the Supreme Court held that a state could force the inoculation of children whose parents would not allow such action for religious reasons. The Court held that the state had an overriding interest in protecting public health and safety.

Sometimes the Establishment Clause and the Free Exercise Clause come into conflict. The federal courts help to resolve such conflicts, with the Supreme Court being the ultimate arbiter.
[i]https://www.uscourts.gov/educational-resources/educational-activities/first-amendment-and-religion[/i][/quote]

@windinhishair I'd love to see Satanists come and pray on a field. I'm sure they'd love that!!!

@NoGamesTolerated
Because some are evil and the rest are sheep or just want to be part of the crowd

@Driver2 Bingo! Sadly you are correct! The day I do something just to fit in, I’ll be 6 feet under. I have no respect for anyone that is wishy washy and doesn’t take a stand for something! (At least respect in that regard)

@NoGamesTolerated but it gives them something petty to cry about, and smoke screens the real problems😉

@ChipmunkErnie no wise guy… many came to escape persecution!!!


Many of the British North American colonies that eventually formed the United States of America were settled in the seventeenth century by men and women, who, in the face of European persecution, refused to compromise passionately held religious convictions and fled Europe. The New England colonies, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, and Maryland were conceived and established "as plantations of religion." Some settlers who arrived in these areas came for secular motives--"to catch fish" as one New Englander put it--but the great majority left Europe to worship God in the way they believed to be correct. They enthusiastically supported the efforts of their leaders to create "a city on a hill" or a "holy experiment," whose success would prove that God's plan for his churches could be successfully realized in the American wilderness. Even colonies like Virginia, which were planned as commercial ventures, were led by entrepreneurs who considered themselves "militant Protestants" and who worked diligently to promote the prosperity of the church.

European Persecution
The religious persecution that drove settlers from Europe to the British North American colonies sprang from the conviction, held by Protestants and Catholics alike, that uniformity of religion must exist in any given society. This conviction rested on the belief that there was one true religion and that it was the duty of the civil authorities to impose it, forcibly if necessary, in the interest of saving the souls of all citizens. Nonconformists could expect no mercy and might be executed as heretics. The dominance of the concept, denounced by Roger Williams as "inforced uniformity of religion," meant majority religious groups who controlled political power punished dissenters in their midst. In some areas Catholics persecuted Protestants, in others Protestants persecuted Catholics, and in still others Catholics and Protestants persecuted wayward coreligionists. Although England renounced religious persecution in 1689, it persisted on the European continent. Religious persecution, as observers in every century have commented, is often bloody and implacable and is remembered and resented for generations.

@Spunkylama correct…

@NoGamesTolerated Yup, they fled to set up their own persecution here. Holding religious beliefs dear doesn't mean they weren't also religious bigots. The two are NOT mutually exclusive. One of the few exemptions would probably be the Quakers. And Roger Williams founded Rhode Island only after being driven from Massachusetts by the religious leader there because he didn't abide by THEIR religious precepts.

@NoGamesTolerated The verse does not say not to pray in church. Do you not understand what it's saying?

@Spunkylama You are wicked little girl. I’m going to block you because not my only do you post evil crap you try to insult those that disagree with you. Blocking now!

@LordShadowfire Nonsense. It's about time the Constitution was followed.

@LordShadowfire No. This is the first court i a long time to follow it.

@Strictgram *sighs* How was it not being followed?