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What are some alternatives to explaining the truth to conservatives who already know but lie about everything?

Effective ones?
Notanymore · 36-40, M
Understanding that you may not actually know the truth either and communication to where you both may learn something.
Stopmakingsense · 56-60, F
@Notanymore sorry, now, on everything from weapons of mass destruction to the case for evolution, I'm not wrong and it's not helping for me to constantly cast doubt on whether cigarettes cause cancer, either.
Notanymore · 36-40, M
@Stopmakingsense i understand your frustration, but anyone that believes they're always right, is usually often wrong, at best. Opinions are based on perceptions, maybe being more open to someone else's views would benefit you and them.
ravenwind43 · 51-55, F
@Notanymore Glad there are still voices of reason.
ninalanyon · 61-69, T
Why bother? There really is only one way to do it and that is to befriend them. That is, make them see you as a real person instead of simply the other. Then you can start to try to understand why each individual feels and behaves as they do, and then you can try to persuade them to change.

Personally I'm to lazy and too shy to do such things but I have read of examples where something like it has worked (for some value of worked), for instance: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4055162/Killing-hatred-kindness-Black-man-convinced-200-racists-abandon-KKK-making-friends-despite-prejudiced-views.html
QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
@ninalanyon When you gaze into the abyss...
Notanymore · 36-40, M
@ninalanyon good answer
Stopmakingsense · 56-60, F
@ninalanyon they already see me as mom, sister, classmate, boss, teacher friend, partner and co worker. Maybe I influenced a person, but I've never backed down and I see no evidence that I've been heard.
Ridicule and shunning I think are the best long term options for this so called "Conservative" lie about everything movement, aka, Trumpism.

I know it sounds extreme, but if you literally "lie about everything," you really are a menace to society.
Graylight · 51-55, F
Consequences. But they misinterpret those, too.
Carissimi · 70-79, F
Well that’s a blanket statement, and a lie.
Graylight · 51-55, F
@Carissimi It's not a blanket statement at all. He asked about conservatives who lie - he didn't say [i]all[/i] conservatives lie.
@Graylight He ? Thought @motherhubbard was a she .. or is that his catfish account ??
Graylight · 51-55, F
@Stillwaiting omg, that's what you got it of it? As far as I know, motherhubbard could be a 58-year-old Russian guy.
More interested in effective means to get political trolls to stop incessantly posting leftist propaganda ..
Stopmakingsense · 56-60, F
@Stillwaiting you change the subject. We can simply stop letting you. Block and not talk.
@Stopmakingsense That works both ways .. just like there are those that lie on both sides of the political aisle. Both parties are failing the citizens of the country and have for decades.
Quetzalcoatlus · 46-50, M
Just listen to them, they’re hurting inside and are afraid.
Stopmakingsense · 56-60, F
@Quetzalcoatlus bull. They're in control and dangerous.
QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
Laughing at them is more productive.
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