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I can't emphasize this enough, pedophilia related. (long thread)

Once a person starts writing about his/her fantasies online in social media outlet, they are no longer JUST fantasies playing out in their head privately and not hurting anyone. And they are showing bad judgement abilities.

The fantasies become public and they serve to normalize the actions of abuse, especially when done with no disclaimer. All while admitting the unwillingness to seek professional help.

Those kind of comments and constant threads about how it is[i] just a fantasy [/i]can serve in the future for the pedophile to find and attract those like them, downplaying the seriousness of the situation.

Those comments can and do affect victims of abuse negatively, because they are made in the public sphere reminding them "fantasies and child fetishization " are okay.

No one on this website would know a person was fantacizing about kids and teenagers if they didn't constantly express it. The shift was made from just their problem to everyone's problem.

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To quote someone who was warned recently in a related incident I am sure we've all caught up with now,

'I like older teens [b]most[/b]". He said this in the context of attraction and made several other similar comments.

While he wants to stay in the website,he continued;

-mentioning the abnormal attraction again and again as in the quote ,despite members advising him not to and the admins telling him not to put that in the about me section.

- getting in fights with other members insisting to get them involved about the topic.

- most recently mentioning the attraction (again) in the 'about me", after being limited from using the mental illness as username.

Behaviors like above that don't serve staying here , which he wants, might very much be him unable to regulate his tendencies.

All of that can hint to potential obsessive behavior and lack of control.

The person claimed their attraction towards children is but a small fraction of their sexuality..They have said they are mostly interested in adults , [b]yet they have chosen repeatedly to base their entire identity on their mental illness i.e username, about me section, the repeated topics. [/b] Also an inconsistency that shows he does have issues he needs to address.

They have requested to use SW as an outlet for their mental illness ,but when told there are victims of abuse who cannot handle it, their response is [b]this is a kink website and victims of abuse should not be here. [/b] Again another inconsistency , this one is manipulative in nature..It is okay for me to talk about my tendencies because I am mentally ill but not someone else.

It is also a bit concerning since it might mean they might be really thinking the desire to child abuse is a kink.

They expressed wanting to force themselves unto an SW member after being told the member is victim of child abuse..

There is lot to address here but the conclusion would be the same;

[b]A REAL outlet for his mental illness would be professional help within controlled setting not SW. The nature of social media and the validation he can gain through them doesn't seem to be beneficial to him[/b]
Magenta · F
I don't know of who you speak of, but absolutely this: [quote]A REAL outlet for his mental illness would be professional help within controlled setting not SW[/quote] I'd not allow them on my web site. Finito!
That's the downside to the cyber world/social media sites, it allows those types and others to flourish and feed their perversions. It's where many hide out from the civilized world.

Some FBI stats read: [quote]More than 500,000 predators are online everyday[/quote][quote] 89 percent of all sexual advances toward our children take place in internet chat rooms and through instant messaging[/quote]
Magenta · F
ETA: Oh I see whom you speak of now. 🤨
Straylight · 31-35, F
He needs help and this is not the place to get it. He’ll only spiral out of control.
caccoon · 36-40
Yes, it's really sick and sad that these people don't want to fix their own problem. They are troubled and absolutely delusional 😔 It makes me so angry.
caccoon · 36-40
@Longpatrol I don't condone killing...

I feel there must be some way to help these people. And it is obviously a huge, disgusting problem in our world...

But people are so unwilling to seek help, even for mental illnesses with a lot less social stigma

Not to say it isn't still the individual's own responsibility to fix it, but I think it creates an extra hurdle for them, and I'm sure they're afraid to seek help.

Sorry I'm not trying to defend any of this shit, it's unacceptable. And I know the person you're speaking about, @Miram, and his nature and responses around the issues he has are sickening
BlueVeins · 22-25
@caccoon Also doesn't help that a lot of governments make it literally illegal to seek psychiatric help over this issue.
Miram · 31-35, F
@BlueVeins Just to point out, he has access to help and it is legal. What other governments do doesn't affect him.

@caccoon I understand, I am not going to partake in discourse where it is alright to harm him physically for that and other reasons.
Longpatrol · 31-35, M
It's disturbing.
Dainbramadge · 56-60, M
What you write is so true and very concise.
I have seen a real pedophile in person in court and heard his own words read to the court.
The things that this animal thought regarding his urges was very disturbing. It wasn't like reading about it on here. It was so very real. I mean I was looking right at this f*****. And hearing his sick thoughts.
So when I read his post about wanting to be accepted and allowed to indulge in his fantasies I was pissed. I could relate the two situations very vividly.
Hopefully he isn't reading this. You have to get him to incriminate himself to the degree of legal action.
If that is not just a troll account he needs to be labeled as a danger to kids.
Someone commenting on there said that he is in contact with kids all the time as a teacher.
I don't even know where I'm going with this but you wrote this very well..
Carla · 61-69, F
Ive been following this.
I dont understand his continued presence here.
If this person was talking about his predilection for mass murder, he would very well be reported to the fbi.
He is a danger to children in real life. A danger to peoples emotional safety here.
Purging him is the only correct measure to take.
Is the traffic this guy is creating attractive to those running the site? The more conversation, the more drama, the better? Regardless of how damaging and dangerous it is?
Miram · 31-35, F
@Carla

I don't think so. Sometimes you have to let people run their mouths so things unravel. That's what I'd do as site owner. But I think in this case, they try to only take extreme measures when there is strong irrefutable evidence of danger. Since they have to explain their own decisions in context of treating all equally and freedom of speech, there are other circumstances.

It is not easy and I don't envy their position, having dealt with the legalities and all loopholes offenders can use to get away with possible crime.

To me, if we as community, keep denouncing his arguments and keep refusing to let this website and others be used as cop out on real help, it will work. He will make more mistakes and get banned. They all do eventually.
Carla · 61-69, F
@Miram i dont have much experience with this kind of thing.
I see a lot of talk about people like him, but somehow those people go past me.

I dont like seeing people upset over his comments though.
I hope you are correct about it going too far, and it no longer be tolerated.
zerofuks2give · 41-45, M
Honestly, even if someone has urges and didn't go public, i think they should probably seek help. We can't help what gets out wang hard or our cat wet, but we can def overcome conquor our urges. Anyone who likes kids must change, period point black no excuse
Miram · 31-35, F
@BRUUH Not disagreeing with that.
hyg346 · 41-45, M
My concern is once someone starts verbalizing these thoughts, whether speaking them aloud or in writing, it isn't that far of a leap that someday they may try to put them into practice.

Whenever you try to report things here "try blocking this person" is suggested by the site. Yes, blocking/muting does tend to get rid of the problem of you seeing the crap being said, but that doesn't make the problem go away. I think the Admins do a pretty decent job here, but I also think they need to be a little more aggressive at getting rid of these people and future accounts they make to come back and continue to spew their garbage that has no place in society.
Classified · M
I'm bookmarking this. You write a number of intelligent deductions, which I find very insightful.
It takes away the smokescreen people are trying to put up.
plasticpants02 · 61-69, M
Totally right, some things are not ok no matter how you express them
I don't think I've seen the person that inspired* this thread, but this does sound extremely problematic indeed. Way more than "just sharing one of many fantasies".

* Inspired by, because this is a general issue of pedophilia. Despite apparently one particular user driving you to write this, it's not just about him.
iamonfire696 · 41-45, F
Well said @Miram. I understand the admins are in a bad position but he doesn’t care who he hurts. He’s been told time and time again that’s it’s not acceptable and he keeps baiting people here. I think he gets off on it.

He asked a question “do you always forgive your husband when he sometimes rapes you”. What reason would he have to post this if not only to create turmoil? He likes when people lash out at him and then he uses it to paint a picture that he’s being bullied.

I do not understand why he remains here
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